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[00:08] [gnunux] hi
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[06:20] [_UsUrPeR_] morning all
[06:53] [vbundi] mornin
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[07:35] [alkisg] stgraber: ping? (about udhcp, whenever you got 5'...)
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[07:40] [jammcq] hello friends
[07:46] [highvoltage] hello uncle jammcq
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[08:35] [treyhunsucker] Gadi: no reports as of yet about anyone loosing audio
[08:35] [treyhunsucker] *Cheers*
[08:38] [treyhunsucker] one thing i've noticed on this install
[08:38] [treyhunsucker] is after fulling upgrading ub 9.10 and the chroot
[08:38] [treyhunsucker] i use about 1/3 of the memory
[08:39] [treyhunsucker] i made some changes on my 2003 TS to limit the nic to only use 1 core on 1 cpu
[08:39] [treyhunsucker] *2008 TS
[08:39] [treyhunsucker] i wonder if that also helped in a strange way?
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[08:39] [vbundi] cool, didn't know you could do that
[08:40] [vbundi] I think when you upgrade it uninstalls things sometimes, so maybe that's why you are using less memory? less things running
[08:40] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: it's a new tool in 2008
[08:40] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: yea but I went from using 75% of my ram
[08:40] [treyhunsucker] to using 25$
[08:40] [treyhunsucker] 25%
[08:40] [Gadi] server side or client side?
[08:40] [treyhunsucker] Gadi: server
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[08:41] [Gadi] then, it is probably the windows settings that helped - not the ubuntu upgrade
[08:41] [treyhunsucker] Gadi: interesting
[08:41] [treyhunsucker] i lied, after usage this morning it's peaked at 41% usage
[08:42] [treyhunsucker] but still very interesting
[08:42] [treyhunsucker] Interrupt-Affinity Policy Tool FTW
[08:44] [vbundi] so you are using ubuntu desktops to run rdesktop to your 2008RDS?
[08:44] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: yes
[08:44] [vbundi] and the 41% memory usage is your LTS?
[08:44] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: oops let me correct myself, i'm using the rdesktop screen script
[08:45] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: using the rdesktop screen script to connect to 2008 TS, and memory is at 41%
[08:45] [vbundi] how many clients is that
[08:45] [vbundi] and 41% of what
[08:45] [treyhunsucker] 41% of memory usage
[08:45] [vbundi] of how much ;P
[08:45] [vbundi] 8GB?
[08:46] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: 1.5g
[08:46] [treyhunsucker] i have 100 clients
[08:46] [treyhunsucker] but not all of them are in use at a time
[08:46] [treyhunsucker] i think the average load is around 40-50
[08:46] [vbundi] ah ok
[08:47] [vbundi] do you use samba with it or are you running everything on windows
[08:47] [treyhunsucker] windows for everything
[08:49] [vbundi] ah, I tried messing with Server 08 a while back.. I liked it, but I wasn't having much success getting samba to work with it
[08:49] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: yea a lot of things have changed, probably need to join your LTS to the domain
[08:50] [vbundi] treyhunsucker: lol, can you do anything with windows without being joined to the domain? ;)
[08:50] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: you can ping it :)
[08:51] [treyhunsucker] i absolutely hate windows
[08:51] [treyhunsucker] but there is simply no replacement for a domain style environment that has all the features
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[08:54] [treyhunsucker] stgraber: hello sir are you around?
[08:54] [vbundi] sabayon is sweet
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[08:55] [vbundi] what a great idea
[08:56] [treyhunsucker] what is sabayon
[08:58] [vbundi] it lets you make profiles and preferences for users
[08:58] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: from a live cd?
[08:59] [vbundi] when you run it and create a profile... it runs a session that is just like a normal desktop... but any preferences that you save... ie fontsize or background or desktop icons..you can save as a template to apply to users or groups
[08:59] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: cool
[09:00] [komunista] hi all
[09:00] [vbundi] yeah, a little simpler than running through 1000 policies and checkboxes etc
[09:00] [vbundi] hi
[09:04] [elias_a] Hello, folks!
[09:07] [treyhunsucker] hello: elias_a
[09:07] [treyhunsucker] komunista: hello
[09:08] [treyhunsucker] elias_a: hello
[09:09] [elias_a] What are you guys up to?
[09:18] [vbundi] gettin italc running
[09:18] [treyhunsucker] elias_a: working on italc also
[09:18] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: you install it on the server?
[09:18] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: or the clients?
[09:18] [vbundi] both
[09:19] [vbundi] just install italc-client in your chroot
[09:19] [vbundi] I'm getting an error saying my keys aren't generated or my service isnt' running
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[09:40] [vbundi] cool! :) got italc running
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[09:55] [treyhunsucker] vbundi: cool how much memory is it using on each client
[09:56] [vbundi] not sure I'll look in a few
[10:03] [johnny] alkisg, how much memory is being used before swap on your fat clients?
[10:04] [johnny] err lemme try that again
[10:04] [johnny] how much memory is being used on login with your fat clients
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[10:52] [alkisg] johnny: `free` says 96M, `htop` says 30M.
[10:53] [johnny] with how much ram?
[10:53] [alkisg] 768
[10:53] [alkisg] (I'm disabling cron in my setups with an ltsp-build-client plugin)
[10:53] [johnny] does that really help?
[10:53] [alkisg] Yes, it stops a lot of annoying tasks
[10:53] [johnny] for example?
[10:54] [alkisg] E.g. updatedb, update-xapian-index etc
[10:54] [alkisg] There are dozens of them in a fat client installation
[10:54] [johnny] hmm.. with 512mb ram, it's already touching swap.. :(
[10:54] [johnny] and things get kinda slow
[10:55] [alkisg] And that's before logon?! Wow...
[10:55] [alkisg] I'm also using nfs-client, that also takes a bit of ram before logon.
[10:55] [alkisg] (it's included in the 96 M)
[10:56] [johnny] no.. on login
[10:57] [johnny] before opening anything else
[10:57] [alkisg] After gnome logon?
[10:57] [johnny] yes
[10:57] [alkisg] OK let me try...
[10:58] [johnny] i thought i was gonna be ok with 512mb ram, but i don't think so..
[10:58] [johnny] i should probably go back to my gigabit card
[10:58] [johnny] we were having problems with that before
[10:58] [johnny] i think there was a bad driver during jaunty
[10:58] [alkisg] What I'm telling my users is "512 is the threshold, below that use the clients as thin, above that, as fat"
[10:59] [alkisg] With exactly 512 it's hard to decide... with a good setup you should be able to work but not with a lot of apps open simultaneously...
[11:00] [johnny] usually ti's just firefox and/or openoffice
[11:00] [johnny] i wish i could upgrade them more
[11:00] [alkisg] Well firefox with 1 tab is very very different than firefox with 10 tabs :)
[11:01] [johnny] i wish i had a pc tech who could tell me what's wrong with this computer i used to use as a server :(
[11:01] [alkisg] After logon and with just an xterm open, `free` tells me 282M
[11:01] [johnny] yeah.. that sounds about right then.. with 768
[11:01] [alkisg] No, with 512
[11:01] [johnny] oh.. hmm
[11:01] [alkisg] And I'm talking about the used memory
[11:01] [alkisg] Free == 227M
[11:02] [johnny] maybe it's just my network link that's getting congested
[11:02] [johnny] i'm going to switch to back to the gigabit card
[11:02] [alkisg] johnny: ps aux should tell you the exact details...
[11:02] [alkisg] If you want, upload it to pastebin
[11:02] [johnny] i'm not there
[11:02] [alkisg] Whenever...
[11:05] [Lns] Does anyone have any experience with E-Rate funding and LTSP servers?
[11:09] [Lns] Gadi: ping? ^^^ ? Do you know if your boot appliances qualify for e-rate funding, since they don't typically house application software?
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[11:10] [denisesball] hey all, i know some key components of ltsp-cluster are being rewritten. would it be wise to wait until its completed before deploying in a large environment?
[11:10] [Gadi] Lns: hey
[11:11] [Lns] hey gadi =)
[11:11] [Gadi] we are an erate vendor
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