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[02:10] [alkisg] stgraber: cisco routers do not work with clientid='', i.e. they don't send a dhcp offer so the clients won't boot
[02:11] [alkisg] Are you sure that's the only way to prevent dhcp3-server from needing 2 IPs per client?
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[03:14] [alkisg] stgraber: I tested here locally with dhcp3-server and *without* sending a clientid (i.e. the default udhcpc behavior) and my client used the same IP address that it had in PXE...
[03:14] [alkisg] So I think we should ditch the clientid hack altogether...
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[03:37] [alkisg] Uhm, and maybe we can send a patch for udhcpc so that it doesn't send a clientid at all (not send an empty one)
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[06:23] [komunista] hi
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[06:47] [Nikratio] On my Ubuntu karmic ltsp clients, the /etc/hosts file is always garbled. After the server ip, I have about 30 "-f\n" entries, before the final "-f server" line. If I restart /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup, the file is generated correctly. Anyone has an idea where to look for the problem?
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[06:51] [alkisg] Nikratio: can you try to specify SERVER=ip in lts.conf?
[06:52] [alkisg] I think that bug was solved some months ago, but I don't remember the exact details
[06:52] [Nikratio] Which BTS was it in?
[06:52] [alkisg] BTS==??
[06:52] [Nikratio] Bug Tracking System
[06:53] [Nikratio] So I can look it up
[06:53] [alkisg] I'm not sure if it was in any BTS, but if it was, it was in launchpad
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[06:53] [alkisg] We may have fixed it without filing any bug reports, though
[06:53] [Nikratio] ah, ok. I'll try the lts.conf change then
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[07:00] [Nikratio] yes, that fixed it
[07:00] [Nikratio] Thanks!
[07:00] [alkisg] OK, don't bother with it anymore, it was fixed for Lucid (even though I don't remember the commit #)
[07:03] [Nikratio] great, thanks again
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[08:18] [lipinski] How can I troubleshoot a hanging client? It starts up fine, and I can log in, start applications, but eventually it hangs and the screen is semi-frozen. Mouse still moves, but can't click on anything or do anything.
[08:18] [lipinski] Looking for some insight on how to start troubleshooting....
[08:20] [vmlintu] Does it answer to ping?
[08:23] [lipinski] yes
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[08:24] [lipinski] I'm trying a new test where I start up firefox and just let it sit at the home page. I'm thinking maybe Facebook or some page like that is causing a problem.
[08:24] [lipinski] I just don't know how to start troubleshooting it. Where would logs be? Do I have to add sshd to the client to be able to get in and check things out? , etc..?
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[08:29] [vmlintu] Having sshd on the client helps a lot
[08:30] [vmlintu] To get logs, you have to enable remote logging on the server. Which distro are you running?
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[09:08] [lipinski] vmlintu: Sorry, got pulled away... I'm currently running Ubuntu 9.10. I'm going to be upgrading to 10.04 LTS in the next week or so (maybe Beta 2, maybe wait for official release)..
[09:09] [lipinski] So, I really am trying to "band-aid" this hang problem to late me until I can get the server on 10.04
[09:12] [vmlintu] Try first installing sshd in the chroot
[09:12] [vmlintu] Once you can login to the client, try running at least top or some similar tool to see if there's something unusual when it freezes
[09:14] [Gadi] lipinski: how much memory does the client have?
[09:14] [vmlintu] I haven't run 9.10 in production so I cannot say much about its quirks
[09:16] [thunsucker] lipinski: is it all your clients or just a few? if it's more than 1 how much memory does the server have and how many clients you running
[09:17] [thunsucker] i have an issue right now at one of my installs, the server doesn't have enough memory (i'm guessing) because sound is choppy on when using the rdesktop script
[09:17] [thunsucker] i connect from a ubuntu laptop to the same terminal servers and all is well
[09:17] [thunsucker] but if less than 5 clients are on, there are no sound issues
[09:18] [Gadi] thunsucker: rdesktop from a launcher on the linux desktop or as a screen script?
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[09:21] [epaphus] hello all
[09:28] [komunista] lipinski: I have one clinet with the same problem
[09:28] [komunista] and it seems to graphic card related
[09:29] [komunista] when I kill frozen GUI apps, the client works...
[09:30] [komunista] it has problem for example with wbar, lxsession-logout and sometime with other apps too
[09:30] [komunista] no messages in any log, no problem by ssh to client... only apps do not works...
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[09:50] [lipinski] The client was working fine for a long time. I had server problems, so upgraded. Server is now running an Intel i3 with a new MB and 4GB RAM. I have only 1 client.
[09:51] [lipinski] The primary use of the client if for Firefox. If I kill Firefox process on the server, the client "unfreezes".
[09:51] [alkisg] How much ram does the client have?
[09:51] [lipinski] I think only 256MB.
[09:51] [alkisg] and, is firefox running as a localapp?
[09:51] [lipinski] no
[09:51] [alkisg] Any other localapps? 256 should be plenty for only thin client use...
[09:51] [lipinski] no localapps at all. This is a "straightforward" ltsp install.
[09:52] [lipinski] client is a dumb as can be :)
[09:52] [alkisg] Hmmm and if you kill firefox and it unfreezes, then it shouldn't be ram related
[09:52] [lipinski] alkisg: I rebuild the image and that's how I fixed the eth problem I was having the other evening (when you were helping me)..
[09:53] [lipinski] Now, client runs great - except for this annoying hang.
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[09:53] [lipinski] Let me try a different app, i.e., OpenOffice or something and see if that hangs.
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[09:54] [sahil] After adding local firefox on ubuntu 9.10 and doing the thin-client nat setup, my clients will boot and display the login manager but I am unable to login, what gives?
[09:54] [lipinski] It's almost like it's causing the entire desktop on the client to hang. mouse still responds, but I can't click on anything.
[09:55] [alkisg] sahil: try `sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image`
[09:56] [sahil] thanks alksig
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[09:59] [lipinski] I never looking into LTSP processes before:
[09:59] [lipinski] 7028 7027 0 08:16 pts/0 00:00:00 bash -c echo LTSPROCKS; /bin/sh -
[09:59] [lipinski] Nice :)
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[10:19] [komunista] lipinski: I have 15 the same clients and only one go to this problem
[10:21] [lipinski] komunista: odd. I'm trying a different Application besides firefox now. Next step would be to use sshd and see if I can tell what's going on on the client itself - maybe a stray process or something...
[10:21] [johnny] alkisg, ever heard of anything like this in karmic? try to play a sound and the volume just starts lowering itself until it is completely quiet?
[10:22] [johnny] it happens with flash player, exaile, and mplayer
[10:22] [johnny] or anywhere even..
[10:22] [johnny] not just karmic :)
[10:22] [alkisg] nah, never
[10:22] [alkisg] does pulseaudio auto lower the volume on overdrive?
[10:22] [johnny] i have no idea
[10:23] [johnny] i have yet to see an overdrive setting :)
[10:23] [alkisg] Karmic allows you to overdrive your speakers... send more than 100% to them
[10:24] [alkisg] (in gnome-mixer how's that applet called)\
[10:25] [johnny] gnome-mixer ? or gnome-alsamixer ?
[10:25] [komunista] lipinski: I find no solution :-(
[10:26] [komunista] I have dropbear in client's chroot, but when it freeze, I see nothing wrong on it...
[10:27] [alkisg] johnny: gnome-volume-control
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[10:27] [johnny] guess that doesn't work over ssh -X :)
[10:27] [johnny] lol
[10:29] [johnny] hmm.. i'm still getting freezes on my fat client setup
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[10:29] [johnny] even after nbd swap seems to be on
[10:29] [johnny] it shows swap on the terminal
[10:29] [johnny] but it doesn't seem to get used
[10:30] [alkisg] swapping is broken in karmic
[10:30] [alkisg] It was fixed 1-2 months ago
[10:31] [johnny] broken in what way
[10:31] [johnny] i think i had fixed it
[10:31] [johnny] by upgrading to stgraber-ppa
[10:32] [johnny] some swap shows up when i run top on the fat client terminal
[10:32] [alkisg] Is that compcache?
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[10:32] [alkisg] But if you upgraded AND updated the initramfs, yeah, it should be fixed
[10:32] [johnny] hmm.. not sure
[10:32] [johnny] updated the initramfs how?
[10:33] [johnny] i didn't manually update the initramfs
[10:33] [alkisg] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 update-initramfs -u && sudo ltsp-update-kernels
[10:34] [johnny] ah.. and that doesn't need the image updated.. because the kernel is already gotten
[10:35] [alkisg] right
[10:35] [johnny] i confused myself for a second
[10:35] [johnny] the problem with the sound just started happening
[10:35] [johnny] i see no reason why..
[10:36] [johnny] none of the sliders move
[10:36] [johnny] in any of the volume control apps
[10:36] [johnny] i think it might be the amp itself.. altho that would be weird
[10:36] [johnny] we have it hooked up to 1/8 inch jack => rca y cable
[10:36] [alkisg] Well you know who's the sound expert here... you should ask him :)
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[11:08] [jammcq] hey friends
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