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[03:32] [alkisg] nbdrootd: ALL: keepalive
[03:32] [alkisg] How could I rewrite this to work for local networks only?
[03:33] [alkisg] nbdrootd: 10. 192.168.: keepalive ? or does it need 2 lines?
[03:41] [alkisg] Ah, commas...
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[06:30] [_UsUrPeR_] morning all.
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[06:33] [_UsUrPeR_] I have installed gnome via "sudo apt-get -y install gnome-core gdm network-manager-gnome fast-user-switch-applet human-theme x11-xserver-utils tangerine-icon-theme gnome-themes-ubuntu ubuntu-artwork jockey-gtk gnome-screensaver gnome-utils", and I keep getting an applet error whenever I log in as a new user
[06:33] [_UsUrPeR_] the error is: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUSserSwitchApplet".
[06:34] [_UsUrPeR_] This was installed this way on ubuntu server to strip out all the un-needed stuff that installes with the Ubuntu-desktop package
[06:34] [_UsUrPeR_] from what I understand, fast_user_switch is no longer used in 9.10
[06:35] [_UsUrPeR_] so what is attempting to start this?
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[06:53] [mgariepy] good morning all
[06:55] [cyberorg] _UsUrPeR_, hi, i've added lvda(?) hack to new opensuse images let me know if it serves your purpose
[06:55] [_UsUrPeR_] cyberorg: LVDS and awesome! :D I'll check that out to see if it's working.
[06:55] [mgariepy] hey alkisg, your fat client are working properly ?
[06:56] [alkisg] mgariepy: sure, my daughter is just playing xmame games beside me on one :)
[06:56] [mgariepy] alkisg, are you using lucid or karmic ?
[06:57] [alkisg] Lucid, but I heard 2 people here that tried it on Karmic successfully
[06:58] [mgariepy] ok, i'll try to update my chroot then, i have kind of a weird issue, it's working properly only on even day .. and today it's a odd one..
[06:59] [alkisg] Heh, what's the problem that you get?
[06:59] [mgariepy] all my process get stuck in a IOWAIT then i got kernel msg that tell me that process got stuck for more then 120 secondes.
[07:00] [alkisg] woah, never saw that...
[07:00] [mgariepy] i hope updating the chroot will fix the issue.
[07:00] [alkisg] That on karmic?
[07:00] [mgariepy] lucid
[07:00] [alkisg] Yeah, maybe a temporary break then
[07:00] [mgariepy] it's very weird.
[07:00] [alkisg] Did you update the chroot recently?
[07:00] [mgariepy] i haven't updated it in a whil.e
[07:01] [alkisg] E.g. I tried to update it but I got a broken dbus on update, which would have gotten me problems if I hadn't noticed it...
[07:01] [mgariepy] it was working great for 2 weeks..
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[11:15] [Lns] Good morning/afternoon/evening/twilight all
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[11:16] [abeehc] morning!
[11:17] [CAN-o-SPAM] hi lns, hi abeehc
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[11:17] [Lns] hey
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[11:25] [abeehc] i had a new query the other day
[11:25] [abeehc] how might one expose an ltsp desktop session to a vpn user
[11:26] [abeehc] i think i'm going to boot a thinclient via vmware and expose vnc to in this case a windows client
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[11:45] [alkisg] abeehc: why not just use freenx/neatx?
[11:46] [alkisg] If it's just remote desktop you're after, why do you want LTSP?
[11:56] [abeehc] hmm
[11:56] [abeehc] i'd rather use it than windows terminal server
[11:56] [abeehc] am i alone in that? hehe
[11:56] [abeehc] just something that crossed my mind cause some of my users aren't quick enough to ensure the files they need to work on are on a network drive
[11:57] [abeehc] and so as it is they all remote into a ms 2003 terminal server and in some cases can't access the files they'd expect
[11:57] [abeehc] or their thunderbird is lacking signature
[11:57] [abeehc] small things really
[11:58] [abeehc] ltsp seems to be a good fit here as it is outside of the perf problems i've been working on
[11:59] [abeehc] in the end i just gotta train the users to use their network drives better i suppose
[12:00] [Lns] abeehc: you can expose it to a VPN user via X11, you don't need LTSP or anything like that
[12:01] [abeehc] yeah that's along the lines of what i was thinking
[12:01] [abeehc] though naturally these people are all running windows clients at home
[12:02] [abeehc] haven't looked at windows x11 implementations for a long time haha
[12:02] [abeehc] i should probly be looking at this freenx
[12:02] [Lns] abeehc: but as alkisg said, freenx/neatx/vnc would be a better approach most likely
[12:02] [abeehc] :)
[12:02] [Lns] ;)
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[13:19] [vbundi] is there an alsa config file to set the default output device on a particular card?, ie digital vs analog, and is there a shell command for showing a list of available outputs?
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[14:16] [Lns] vbundi: try looking at alsactl and alsaset
[14:18] [vbundi] Lns: hmm I didn't see a 'list' option but I found /var/lib/alsa/asound.state shows the inputs/outputs configured... this might help
[14:20] [Lns] vbundi: i know i've used alsaset/ctl to turn on/off headphone jack sense before, i'd think you can pretty much do anything you want with those two =)
[14:21] [vbundi] Lns: yeah I don't have alsaset on this system
[14:22] [Lns] oh sorry, that might have been wrong...alsactl works well though
[14:22] [Lns] argh...ok try amixer
[14:23] [vbundi] Lns: so if I'm trying to configure a soundcard for a terminal.... would I be running alsactl and or editing a conf file from a local xterm then or from a gnome-terminal
[14:23] [vbundi] Lns: I'm thinking the former... but I can't find /var/lib/alsa/asound.state in the local system
[14:23] [Lns] vbundi: you'd be using it from the shell on the local terminal
[14:26] [vbundi] Lns: only command I can find on the local xterm is alsamixer... upon running it I get 'cannot open mixer: No such file or directory'
[14:26] [Lns] weird
[14:26] [Lns] it's detecting your sound card though?
[14:26] [alkisg] vbundi: add /sbin to your path
[14:27] [vbundi] alkisg: there are no alsa programs in /usr/sbin/
[14:27] [alkisg] Not /usr/sbin, just /sbin
[14:27] [vbundi] doh
[14:27] [Lns] hehe
[14:27] [Lns] thx akl
[14:27] [Lns] alkisg*
[14:27] [alkisg] np
[14:28] [Lns] alkisg: i take it you've been down that road before?
[14:28] [alkisg] Missing path? Sure :D
[14:28] [Lns] hahaha
[14:29] [alkisg] !shell-screen
[14:29] [ltspbot`] alkisg: "shell-screen" :: One way to get local root access to troubleshoot a thin client is to use a shell SCREEN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
[14:29] [alkisg] ^^ that works better than localxterm for system commands
[14:30] [vbundi] alkisg: if I want to change my default output device.... should I be looking at alsa or pulseaudio
[14:31] [alkisg] No idea about sound, sorry
[14:31] [vbundi] I only have one 'card' but it has 2 outputs... it's defaulting to output to the speaker jack, but I want it to use the internal speaker
[14:32] [alkisg] I think alsa, not pulse
[14:32] [alkisg] One of those commands lists your outputs,
[14:32] [alkisg] and then you can turn that into an lts.conf parameter I think...
[14:32] [vbundi] oh
[14:33] [vbundi] be great if that was in the man entry :P
[14:33] [vbundi] aplay -l woo
[14:34] [vbundi] awesome.. no soundcards found.
[14:35] [vbundi] !docs
[14:35] [ltspbot`] vbundi: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
[14:36] [vbundi] !lts.conf
[14:36] [ltspbot`] vbundi: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
[14:39] [alkisg] vbundi: check the amixer command
[14:39] [alkisg] If you can do it with amixer, you can probably do it from lts.conf too
[14:39] [alkisg] The code is in ltsp-init-common...
[14:40] [vbundi] yeah I get 'amixer: Mixer attach default error: no such file or directory'
[14:40] [vagrantc] yay. LXDE upstream wrote and committed to support LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION :)
[14:41] [vagrantc] now i just need to figure out how to get them to work...
[14:41] [alkisg] Great!
[14:41] [alkisg] We need to bug sbalneav to push it to gnome-session too :)
[14:41] [alkisg] vbundi: did you try with a root xterm?
[14:41] [alkisg] Or are you trying with a user one?
[14:42] [vbundi] on a side note, at one spot in the http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man5/lts.conf.5.html it says local_apps = false by default, and lower down it says it's true by default
[14:43] [alkisg] vagrantc: do you have any links for lxde?
[14:43] [alkisg] (the logout action, I mean...:))
[14:43] [vagrantc] i'm looking for them myself
[14:43] [vbundi] alkisg: ah been using a user one...
[14:44] [alkisg] !shell-screen
[14:44] [ltspbot`] alkisg: "shell-screen" :: One way to get local root access to troubleshoot a thin client is to use a shell SCREEN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
[14:44] [alkisg] vbundi, follow that one ^^
[14:44] [vbundi] alkisg: I have set /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf to have SCREEN_02 = shell and I cannot switch to it
[14:45] [alkisg] Is your client amd64?
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