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[02:00] [alibaba] alkisg: Hello, I was told you are an "gPXE guru". May I please you for a little help, please?
[02:00] [alkisg] Heh I was typing a gpxe script here!!!!
[02:00] [alkisg] OK let me type it and go ahead
[02:01] [alkisg] Here's a gpxe script that can be used to boot LTSP clients with an external, unmodifiable DHCP server:
[02:01] [alkisg] dhcp net0
[02:01] [alkisg] # Put the LTSP server IP in the following line
[02:01] [alkisg] set next-server 10.160.31.10
[02:01] [alkisg] kernel tftp://${next-server}/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img nbdroot=${next-server}:2000
[02:01] [alkisg] initrd tftp://${next-server}/ltsp/i386/initrd.img
[02:01] [alkisg] boot vmlinuz
[02:01] [alkisg] To use it, just go to http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-1.0.0/contrib/rom-o-matic/build.php and put it in the [Embedded script] box.
[02:01] [alkisg] alibaba: ok done, shoot!
[02:02] [alkisg] (I was writing that to find it in the logs when I need it)
[02:03] [alibaba] alkisg: I have an very old AXUS TC200 series device I want to reuse. I got gPXE working, but I always must press Ctrl-B, wait on the prompt for ~10 seconds, then enter autoboot. Without that, it doesn't get DHCP working.
[02:03] [alkisg] Woah
[02:03] [alkisg] Which gpxe version is that?
[02:04] [alibaba] Current one, I got it a few days ago from rom-o-matic, and with kindly help i could install it on a CF card.
[02:04] [alkisg] OK. First, I'd report the problem to #etherboot
[02:04] [alkisg] Then I'd try the method that I said above,
[02:05] [alkisg] but putting "autoboot" in the embedded script instead of my script above
[02:05] [alkisg] In essense it's like pressing ctrl+b and typing autoboot yourself...
[02:06] [alkisg] (ehm, some explanation: the rom-o-matic site allows you to embed some commands in the gpxe.krn/dsk/iso/usb you download...)
[02:06] [alibaba] Do you have any idea what can cause this problem at all?
[02:07] [alkisg] I'm guessing some BIOS initialization problems, but you'd need to ask a gpxe coder for details
[02:08] [alkisg] Join #etherboot in IRC and ask there...
[02:08] [alibaba] thank you.
[02:08] [alkisg] alibaba: if it's just that terminal, you can make a script that completely bypasses dhcp..
[02:09] [alkisg] (or, that waits 10 seconds and runs autoboot afterwards)
[02:09] [alibaba] Yes, only this one.
[02:10] [alkisg] Try embedding a script then, it's the easiest method
[02:10] [alibaba] I don't want to bother Marty Connor again. He himself helped me to get this CF card booting at all.
[02:11] [alibaba] Does gPXE automatically search and execute a script file?
[02:11] [alkisg] OK, just go to the rom-o-matic site...
[02:11] [alkisg] See the link I posted above.
[02:11] [alkisg] (11:01:54 À¼) alkisg: To use it, just go to http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-1.0.0/contrib/rom-o-matic/build.php and put it in the [Embedded script] box.
[02:12] [alibaba] I'll do so... Which commands does it uinderstand?
[02:13] [alkisg] Type `help` in the gpxe prompt to get the list
[02:13] [alibaba] ok. Thank you.
[02:13] [alkisg] (i.e. `autoboot` etc...)
[02:13] [alkisg] You're welcome
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[06:52] [exploreralex] can v make a usb startup disk for linux ubuntu 9.10 server edition?
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[07:11] [infro] hello
[07:11] [sbalneav] hello
[07:11] [infro] I have another problem with my ltsp
[07:11] [infro] most client can access with same username
[07:11] [infro] when I disable it?
[07:13] [infro] it's possible?
[07:13] [sbalneav] Not sure what you mean.
[07:14] [sbalneav] Do you mean you want to stop people from logging in multiple times with the same username?
[07:14] [infro] yes
[07:14] [infro] in this moment
[07:15] [infro] if I have 3 client up
[07:15] [infro] I can login with same username
[07:15] [sbalneav] right
[07:15] [sbalneav] so, don't do that :)
[07:15] [infro] simultaneously
[07:15] [infro] hahahah :D
[07:15] [infro] ok
[07:16] [infro] but in one university this is the problem
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[07:16] [sbalneav] That's not really an LTSP problem.
[07:17] [sbalneav] If you'd like to restrict that, then set up an Xsession.d script that detects multiple logins, and boot the person off.
[07:18] [sbalneav] You can set LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION_PROMPT
[07:18] [sbalneav] to true
[07:18] [sbalneav] but that only helps if you only have one server.
[07:18] [cyberorg] sbalneav, LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION?
[07:18] [cyberorg] or is it _PROMPT now?
[07:19] [infro] I have one server
[07:19] [infro] sbalneav: it's on lts.conf?
[07:20] [sbalneav] Sorry, that's the prompt
[07:20] [sbalneav] it's LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION
[07:20] [sbalneav] It's not in the docs, I'll have to add it.
[07:21] [sbalneav] infro: yes, that's where everyhting gets set on thin clients.
[07:21] [cyberorg] i think both are required, just read ldm-trunk/rc.d/S15-userLoginCheck
[07:22] [sbalneav] That's what I'm doing.
[07:23] [sbalneav] No.
[07:23] [sbalneav] LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION_PROMPT isn't required
[07:23] [sbalneav] if it's not set, there's a default message.
[07:24] [cyberorg] ok
[07:26] [infro] I test it
[07:26] [infro] it's not work :(
[07:33] [infro] cyberorg: I have find S15-userLoginChect
[07:33] [infro] I copy in in etc/rc.d/ and update the image?
[07:34] [cyberorg] infro, no it will already be in right place where ldm expects it, just change lts.conf adding those variables to True
[07:36] [infro] I have only add True at the variable, but not work
[07:36] [infro] Do can I update the image?
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[07:50] [sbalneav] infro: Does your lts.conf sit in the tftp area? Or in the /opt/ltsp area? If the latter, then yes, you'll have to update the image.
[07:50] [infro] tftp
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[07:51] [infro] this variables block the user logout
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[08:29] [jammcq] hellooooo
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[10:14] [anivair] does anyone know if dicklessworkstations.com has any thin clients that are POE compatible? it's be great not to have to run power cords here.
[10:15] [Lns] anivair: if you wait around maybe CAN-O-SPAM will show up, he works there
[10:17] [anivair] coolness. I'll hang for a bit
[10:17] [anivair] if I end up having to go, i'll ask the list
[10:18] [Lns] anivair: did you look on their website? I'd think that it would tell you as well ;)
[10:19] [anivair] I looked. nothing says it specifically, but Im thinking it might be me (I've never really looked for it before)
[10:20] [Lns] what kind of environment are you in that you don't want power run to the terminals?
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[10:26] [anivair] we're in a call center. Mostly I just want to cut down on as many cables as I can and if I can get it down to just one net/power cable, that would be easier
[10:26] [anivair] also, my switches are more reliable than the power outlets here
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[10:36] [johnny] does POE really offer enough power for those?
[10:36] [johnny] is it even possible?
[10:37] [johnny] it doesn't sound possible..
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[10:50] [Lns] johnny: there are thin clients w/PoE
[10:54] [anivair] I'm sure it's possible. I power a lot of stuff on a POE switch.
[10:55] [johnny] Lns, i wonder what the max is..
[10:55] [jammcq] the switch docs will tell you how much power can be delivered
[10:55] [jammcq] with that, it just becomes a simple math problem
[10:56] [Lns] Too bad LCDs don't have the extra AC input that the old PC power supplies used to have..
[10:57] [Lns] Anyone remember those?
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[11:05] [johnny] Lns, i do..
[11:05] [johnny] never used it tho..
[11:06] [Lns] Would seem logical to, now that LCDs and TCs are such low power, to have a single power cord for them
[11:08] [vagrantc] power-over-ethernet sounds pretty ideal
[11:10] [alkisg] There are cords that can at the end of the LCD power cord and before the LCD itself, and "fork" the current to the TC...
[11:10] [alkisg] Some speakers have those
[11:11] [Lns] stgraber: http://pastebin.com/K7QAtgYH - just caught this while upgrading my lucid chroot.. is this an issue?
[11:11] [Lns] alkisg: hmmmmm
[11:13] [Lns] http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=jSX&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&q=computer+power+cord+~splitter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=16276483390034978630&ei=qqerS6SSJoPetgO7rpXuCw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=image&resnum=4&ved=0CBkQ8gIwAw#
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[11:14] [Lns] or even better, http://www.amazon.com/Outlet-Saver-Power-Extension-Splitter/dp/B0017KAP84
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[11:15] [Lns] those would work really well, especially if the client was vesa mounted and thus very close to the lcd
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[11:22] [Lns] How exactly does LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS work under the hood? Does it watch out for those local processes?
[11:23] [Lns] For example, how would it know to run openoffice writer locally if you hvae LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = ooffice -- vs -- LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = oowriter ?
[11:24] [Lns] (should be ooffice -writer in the first one)
[11:25] [sbalneav] I believe it's just doing its work with .desktop files
[11:25] [sbalneav] No "process" magic.
[11:27] [alkisg] So it should be openoffice.org-writer, because it is openoffice.org-writer.desktop
[11:27] [alkisg] (i.e. it looks at the desktop file name afaik)
[11:28] [Lns] oh! ok
[11:28] [Lns] thx guys
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[11:36] [Lns] i'm impressed at how well some of this localapp stuff performs
[11:36] [Lns] OOo doesn't break a sweat
[11:36] [Lns] on an atom 1.6 (course it's 4 cores lol).. need to grab some clients from the schools to see how well they'll perform next school year
[11:38] [Blinny] I'm very excited about the prospects of moving to Lucid.
[11:39] [Blinny] My hardy boxes have been gems, but OO has shown its age. PPAs don't quite work for me with some files.
[11:39] Nick change: leio_ -> leio
[11:47] [Lns] Blinny: i'm in your boat too. Testing lucid from hardy. I'll be upgrading from i386 -> amd64 server, too.
[11:48] [Lns] besides the cosmetics in the themes and stuff, i'm really really liking lucid's performance
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