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[04:47] [uberiain] hello
[04:48] [uberiain] i have updated ltsp-server to version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1 today
[04:48] [uberiain] and the client don't boot
[04:48] [uberiain] made ltsp-update-image --arch i386 --server 10.228.45.137
[04:49] [uberiain] and return without create image to boot
[04:50] [uberiain] these file /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/ltsp
[04:50] [uberiain] has this content
[04:50] [uberiain] # Required to get a splash on Lucid
[04:50] [uberiain] FRAMEBUFFER=y
[04:51] [uberiain] --------
[04:51] [uberiain] it's correct? must modify this file
[04:51] [uberiain] server is Lucid 10.04
[04:51] [uberiain] amd64
[04:51] [uberiain] the last version of ltsp-server work well
[04:52] [uberiain] any suggestion?
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[04:55] [jammcq] good morning friends
[04:55] [uberiain] hello
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[05:35] [stgraber] if he'd waited for a few more minutes I could have told him to apt-get update + apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[05:35] [stgraber] alkisg: thanks for noticing the mistake. That's now fixed.
[05:36] [alkisg] Thanks stgraber :)
[05:36] [stgraber] alkisg: I also disabled chroot compression by default in -0ubuntu3. Chroot will be aproximately 40% bigger but also 100% more stable ;)
[05:36] [stgraber] During tests I made recently, all stability issues at boot time simply vanished once compression is disabled
[05:37] [alkisg] Yey! /me never liked nbd compression...
[05:37] [stgraber] an uncompressed standard chroot is 566M
[05:37] [stgraber] so really not that bad
[05:40] [alkisg] Compressing an 11 Gb fat chroot takes ...days :D
[05:41] [alkisg] Most modern disks are 1Tb, so no need for compression.. and I don't think network bandwidth will be too affected
[05:47] [alkisg] stgraber: just wondering, where is the ubuntu ltsp source maintained? I.e. where did you push that change?
[05:53] [stgraber] bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stgraber/ltsp/ltsp.lucid/
[06:01] [alkisg] Thanks, got it. So each package maintainer maintains his sources... I was under the impression that there would be a "master archive" or something, with all the ubuntu package sources in it! :D
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[06:12] [mgariepy] good morning everyone
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[06:15] [elias_a_] Good morning?
[06:16] [elias_a_] mgariepy: Livin' on the edge (of the world)? ;-)
[06:16] [highvoltage] stgraber: I got your jabber message, I tested with a netbook also (Acer Aspire One), will try another laptop (also with an RTL card) and see what it does
[06:16] [highvoltage] elias_a_: well, good afternoon in my case. I guess it's always morning in some part of the world :)
[06:17] [mgariepy] elias_a_, it's morning in canada ;)
[06:17] [elias_a_] highvoltage: thou shalt not bow the North Americans!
[06:17] [elias_a_] mgariepy: Exactly :)
[06:18] [highvoltage] elias_a_: heh, I'll try
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[06:42] [vbundi] mornin everyone
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[06:44] [sbalneav] Morning all
[06:45] [jammcq] Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[06:47] [sbalneav] Morning jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:49] [vbundi] has anyone here gotten carpal tunnel before?
[06:50] [vbundi] wondering if I slept funny.. my wrist is pulsing
[06:52] [highvoltage] stgraber: hmm, I tried an ltsp-update-image with compression and without, and the result was the same on two devices, with my own squashfs it works fine, I'm goint to try another squashfs from scratch in that client and see what it does
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[08:12] [epaphus] Hello, does LTSP work with softphones that use USB head sets?
[08:12] [epaphus] (thin client)
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[08:14] [vbundi] I think it might
[08:15] [vbundi] you can get it to work in ubuntu (without ltsp) right?
[08:17] [vbundi] epaphus: I think this might work... boot up your machine with the headset plugged in (not sure if this is required or not yet), log in to your LTSP server, and see if you get any sound out of your headset (ie login sound)
[08:17] [epaphus] vbundi, right.
[08:17] [epaphus] i think the softphone will be a localapp though
[08:18] [epaphus] would it work like that?
[08:18] [vbundi] epaphus: if you do not hear anything.. right click and go into your sound preferences on your gnome panel at the top, you can set which hardware device you want to use, and it should be in the list
[08:18] [vbundi] epaphus: I think so? ;)
[08:19] [vbundi] you could skip the above step and go right into twinkle or whatever you're using and see if your headset is a device in there....thats all it is really is a secondary sound device
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[08:24] [vbundi] epaphus: any luck?
[08:25] [alkisg] stgraber: is ltsp-update-image.conf a conffile now?
[08:25] [epaphus] vbundi, i cant try it now.. ill try in a bit :)
[08:26] [vbundi] ah ok
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[08:44] [infro] hello boys
[08:45] [infro] I have a problem with k12linux
[08:45] [infro] the client boot on network
[08:45] [infro] but when I write username and password
[08:45] [infro] I don't login
[08:46] [sbalneav] Has your server's IP address changed lately?
[08:46] [infro] I have static ip address
[08:46] [sbalneav] You may need to do an ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-image.
[08:46] [infro] on my server
[08:46] [infro] I have eth0 up on 192.168.0.1
[08:46] [sbalneav] ssh package update? More blacklisted keys?
[08:46] [infro] my client in the boot lease ip 192.168.0.10
[08:47] [sbalneav] Well, regardless, I'd first start with the remedy I told you.
[08:47] [sbalneav] That's usually how to fix a non-logging in thin client.
[08:47] [infro] I have digit ltsp-update-sshkeys on my server
[08:48] [sbalneav] Have you also run ltsp-update-image?
[08:48] [infro] yes
[08:48] [sbalneav] Then I would check 2 things.
[08:49] [infro] what's?
[08:49] [sbalneav] 1) The ldm.log file on the thin client itself (You'll have to enable something like SCREEN_02 = shell to do it...
[08:49] [sbalneav] 2) The users' .xsession-errors file in their home directory. They may actually be logging in, but then something is causing the session to end.
[08:50] [infro] one moment please
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[08:50] [stgraber] alkisg: it's supposed to be yes
[08:50] [infro] I tried it
[08:50] [sbalneav] Tried what?
[08:50] [stgraber] alkisg: well, technically anything in /etc/ is a conffile, IIRC only files outside of /etc should be declared explicitly
[08:50] [alkisg] stgraber: My sch-scripts package was putting some info there - will that cause problems on updates?
[08:51] [alkisg] I.e. I need to put IPAPPEND=3 and BOOTPROMPT_OPTIONS there...
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[08:51] [stgraber] alkisg: nope, it should ask you
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[08:51] [infro] sbalneav: on my client screen2 (I suppose CTRL+ALT+F2) it's black
[08:51] [alkisg] stgraber: so on each ltsp update it's going to ask the teachers if they want to keep their config files? :( ...
[08:52] [thunsucker] I solved my audio issues with server 2008 using rdesktop
[08:52] [thunsucker] the "windows audio service" has to be turned on lol
[08:52] [stgraber] alkisg: yep, with keeping it being the default option
[08:52] [stgraber] alkisg: there might be a way to preseed/configure that behavior somehow
[08:52] [thunsucker] !seen Gadi
[08:52] [ltspbot] thunsucker: Gadi was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 8 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Gadi> but not to vt10
[08:52] [sbalneav] infro: Right. Did you enable SCREEN_02 = shell in your lts.conf file?
[08:53] [sbalneav] !docs
[08:53] [ltspbot] sbalneav: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
[08:53] [alkisg] stgraber: but that only happens when there's been an upstream change to ltsp-update-image.conf, right? Not on "regular" ltsp updates with no changes to the conffile, even if the user changed it... right?
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[08:54] [infro] lts.conf on /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.con
[08:54] [infro] ?
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[08:55] [alkisg] stgraber: Hmmm I'm probably not making sense - let me rephrase that: if the user changes ltsp-update-image.conf, and a new ltsp version comes out, but the upstream ltsp-update-image.conf hasn't changed, will the user still be prompted? (sorry for asking too many questions :))
[08:56] [sbalneav] infro: Depends on where your distribution puts it
[08:57] [sbalneav] That's why I posted a link to the upstream docs.
[08:57] [infro] sbalneav: in my distribution, ltsp.conf it's empty
[08:57] [sbalneav] You're running what? K12Linux?
[08:57] [sbalneav] Is it running LTSP5?
[08:57] [sbalneav] Or an older LTSP4.2?
[08:58] [infro] k12linux
[08:58] [infro] I suppose LTSP5
[08:58] [alkisg] Another question - would anyone mind / would there be a problem if we ran `chown $user:$group $LDM_SOCKET`, so that fat clients can reuse the ssh connection from inside the user session?
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[08:59] [sbalneav] I'm not sure where Fedora puts the lts.conf file. I don't know if they put it in the tftp area, like Ubuntu/Debian, or not. I'd check Fedora specific LTSP docs. However, you'll need to put something in there like:
[08:59] [sbalneav] [default]
[09:00] [sbalneav] SCREEN_02 = shell
[09:02] [infro] ok
[09:02] [infro] I have find the lts.conf on fedora with locate
[09:03] [infro] is't on tftp root
[09:03] [infro] sbalneav: on screen_02 in this moment I have the shell
[09:04] [sbalneav] ok, so try logging in via LDM, then have a look on screen 2, in the /var/log/ldm.log file.
[09:04] [sbalneav] see what ldm's unhappy about.
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[09:08] [infro] sbalneav: it's open one session ssh
[09:09] [infro] but don't have a responding
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[09:10] [infro] I have digit ssh root@serverip
[09:11] [infro] but don't respond (at the command ping ipserver responding)
[09:11] [infro] it's respond
[09:11] [infro] also with ssh
[09:11] [infro] then
[09:12] [infro] with ssh root@ipserver from client, i have access on server
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[09:15] [infro] slidesinger: using ssh to login, it takes over 2 minutes
[09:15] [infro] but the X attend only 30 second
[09:20] [infro] sbalneav: using ssh to login, it takes over 2 minutes but the server X attend only 30 second
[09:24] [infro] sbalneav: the ping it's very fast...olny 0.2 ms
[09:24] [infro] *only
[09:24] [sbalneav] infro: Then you have a problem with your reverse dns lookups
[09:24] [sbalneav] ssh does a reverse dns lookup of the client.
[09:24] [sbalneav] Are the clients listed in /etc/hosts?
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