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[01:05] [gnunux] hi
[01:21] [Kicer86] yellow!
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[04:22] [methril_work_] morning
[04:23] [methril_work_] someone could explain the meaning of LOCALDEVICE ?
[04:24] [alkisg] methril_work_: there's no such option, do you mean LOCALDEV ?
[04:24] [alkisg] !lts.conf
[04:24] [ltspbot] alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
[04:24] [methril_work_] yes LOCALDEV
[04:25] [alkisg] See the man page above
[04:25] [methril_work_] yes i read it
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[04:26] [methril_work_] it could give me problems with some devices if didnīt force this option (i know that by default itīs true)
[04:26] [methril_work_] ?
[04:27] [alkisg] Force it to true? That doesn't make any difference, since the default is already true...
[04:28] [methril_work_] well iīve problems with a webcam and i was guessing if the problem was here
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[05:15] [AndyGraybeal] does anyone use xpra on ltsp?
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[05:39] [cliebow] Homies!
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[06:15] [alkisg] A school here has "atheros 8131" nics, and they tell me they need a driver on the chroot to get them running. Any ideas which driver, and how to insert the module?
[06:17] [alkisg] pciid=1969:1063 - attansic
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[06:54] [highvoltage] alkisg: hey there
[06:55] [alkisg] highvoltage: hi - gotta go - bb in 2 hours :)
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[08:07] [thunsucker] good morning
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[08:39] [alkisg] How can I see if my initramfs contains a specific driver? (atl1c)
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[08:51] [johnny] alkisg, unpack it?
[08:51] [johnny] another way .. which would be initramfs-tools specific.. would be to find the config that is used to generate the distro instance of it..
[08:52] [johnny] but i don't know much about initramfs-tools to be able to tell you how
[08:52] [johnny] but unpacking will always work :)
[08:52] [alkisg] Mhm... I've put break=mount, so I'm into the initramfs right now, but I don't know where to look
[08:52] [johnny] /lib/modules/kernel?
[08:52] [johnny] err $kernel .. as in.. variable
[08:53] [johnny] next time.. don't bther with breaking an instance of it.. next time just unpack it on your server :)
[08:53] [johnny] or figure out how intramfs-tools does the job
[08:54] [alkisg] Ah, thanks, got it
[08:54] [alkisg] Now to find why it decides to only take a few of the drivers, and not all of them..
[08:55] [johnny] alkisg, that's definitely up to whatever ubuntu (or debian) decides to tell initramfs-tools what to include
[08:55] [johnny] alkisg, i have this same problem on gentoo of course.. but that setup is both more complicated.. and does less :)
[08:55] [alkisg] Heh
[08:55] [johnny] does less in regards to netboot stuff that is
[08:55] [johnny] it's probably great for a bunch of other stuff i don't need :)
[08:55] [alkisg] I think I can put additional modules in a .conf file, but I"d like to find out why it doesn't include them in the first place...
[08:56] [johnny] alkisg, probably just choice
[08:56] [alkisg] Well, for net drivers, isn't that kinda dumb for LTSP?
[08:56] [johnny] hmm?
[08:56] [alkisg] Don't we need all the drivers we can get?
[08:56] [johnny] sure.. but i don't think it has very sophisticated rules
[08:56] [alkisg] I mean, why could we leave it up to the system admin to include "atl1c"?
[08:56] [johnny] and it's the same rules used for the server kerenl
[08:57] [alkisg] *would
[08:57] [johnny] there is no specific ltsp config for initramfs generation iirc
[08:57] [alkisg] But we do meddle with the initramfs configuration, so we might as well fix that in the process
[08:57] [alkisg] OK, let me find it first and complain later... :D
[08:57] [johnny] alkisg, sure.. but.. how would you decide which net drivers to include?
[08:57] [alkisg] Why not all of them?
[08:57] [johnny] without including a bunch of other stuff that you definitely don't need
[08:58] [johnny] cdc-ether, wireless drivers, etc
[08:58] [johnny] 10gb ethernet
[08:58] [johnny] token ring
[08:58] [johnny] gotta be careful
[08:58] [alkisg] Does size matter? (in this particular case :D)
[08:58] [johnny] sure it does
[08:58] [johnny] try not to make it too difficult for people with 64mb ram
[08:58] [alkisg] It takes up memory? Hmmm that's not good...
[08:59] [johnny] perhaps there needs to be a switch
[08:59] [johnny] hmm.. how wouldn't it take up memory?
[08:59] [johnny] it's not like you have anywhere else to store it
[08:59] [johnny] you'er unpacking it before you have a rootfs
[08:59] [johnny] alkisg, what would be neater tho..
[08:59] [alkisg] Sure, but it could discard the memory later on
[08:59] [johnny] not sure if this is feasible ..
[09:00] [johnny] but trying to download the kernel module right after getting the kernel :)
[09:00] [alkisg] I don't know if the linux kernel has provisions for it, but programmatically, it isn't unfeasible...
[09:00] [johnny] ah.. yeah.. it probably does get rid of it later..
[09:00] [johnny] especially since once the rootfs is mounted
[09:00] [johnny] you have access to /lib/modules/$kernel on the server
[09:01] [johnny] i wonder if that tftp server implementation wouldn't be a bad idea here
[09:01] [johnny] alkisg, remember?
[09:01] [johnny] we do get teh mac address on intiial query right?
[09:01] [johnny] isn't there a way to translate that into a manufacturer/model?
[09:02] [johnny] then we can just send the right driver from the server?
[09:02] [johnny] that sounds magical.. but who knows :)
[09:02] [alkisg] Hmmm... it would need a big database of mac addresses etc, but yeah, that sounds doable
[09:03] [johnny] alkisg, once again.. not sure how initramfs-tools config works, but i do know in a fork of the genkernel initramfs generator
[09:04] [johnny] you could say something like this MODULES="+DRIVERS_NET -DRIVERS_WIFI"
[09:04] [johnny] or whatever they were called
[09:04] [johnny] it's been a year since i looked.. being that it would never be the default in the os and all..
[09:04] [alkisg] Another idea would be to use the pxe stack to implement a minimal file system layer
[09:04] [alkisg] This way we wouldn't need any initramfs at all ;)
[09:04] [johnny] lol
[09:05] [johnny] i don't think you have access to the full amount of ram there
[09:05] [johnny] is that still in real mode?
[09:05] [johnny] /me isn't sure anymore
[09:05] [alkisg] No - you need to call it from a wrapper function
[09:05] [alkisg] That's how gpxe and pxelinux.0 work
[09:06] [alkisg] (and they do have access to all the ram)
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[09:16] [nosedrum] hi everybody !
[09:16] [nosedrum] i'm here again with a little question
[09:17] [nosedrum] On my ltsp clients when a user x1 create a file in a public folder
[09:18] [nosedrum] the right on file are 644 rx-r--r--
[09:18] [nosedrum] so I edit /etc/profile to put a umask 111
[09:18] [nosedrum] OK when i log in ssh as user x1 and un touch toto.file the right are 666 rw-rw-rw-
[09:19] [nosedrum] but when the user x1 create a file in his file explorer the right still are 644 rw-r--r--
[09:19] [nosedrum] I don't understand why !!!
[09:19] [nosedrum] any ideas ?
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[10:15] [alkisg] !learn adding-modules as to add a module in the Ubuntu LTSP initramfs, follow the steps described in this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
[10:15] [ltspbot] alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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[10:24] [abeehc] !help
[10:24] [ltspbot] abeehc: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[10:28] [abeehc] !help search
[10:28] [ltspbot] abeehc: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
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