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[01:32] [Comete] hi
[01:36] [Comete] i'm looking for a way to make sure visual effect are disable for all users. Any idea ?
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[02:31] [Appiah] Comete: for lockdowns and making a template user and such use sabayon
[02:31] [Appiah] or else you can do something with gconf and such gnome tools
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[02:34] [Comete] Appiah: nice i will look at it, thanks
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[03:05] [Comete] exit
[03:06] [Comete] oops :)
[03:06] [Comete] bye
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[03:06] [nubae] there is a surprising amount of really good templates for openoffice now... as compared to a couple years back
[03:06] [nubae] highvoltage: u there?
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[03:33] [highvoltage] nubae: yep. hi
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[03:51] [nubae] oh, hi highvoltage
[03:52] [nubae] carrying where we left of yesterday
[03:52] [nubae] I've done packaging for redhat and suse
[03:52] [nubae] but not for .debs...
[03:52] [nubae] However, I'd like to learn
[03:53] [nubae] Is there something relatively simple I could start with?
[03:54] [nubae] thats always the problem, finding some source to package that isn't a huge stack of disjointed items...
[03:54] [nubae] at least thats the way it is with rpms
[03:54] [nubae] greets alkisg
[03:54] [alkisg] Hi nubae
[03:55] [nubae] I just found pastebin kde widget... super little useful thing
[03:55] [nubae] for folks like us
[03:55] [nubae] http://imagebin.ca/view/IkA2LXW.html -- tell me what u think
[03:55] [alkisg] If you're considering moodle, it's is already packaged, so it should be a good place to start
[03:55] [nubae] constructive criticism welcome
[03:56] [nubae] well moodle is quite big... lots of different things
[03:56] [nubae] but if u think I can handle it I'll try
[03:56] [nubae] is the greek correct in the images?
[03:56] [alkisg] GNOSIS? Yup, it's fine
[03:57] [alkisg] I'd use a text path in gimp to bend the letters in the diploma, though
[03:57] [nubae] the ischis dia tis gnoseos too?
[03:57] [nubae] bend how do u mean?
[03:57] [nubae] not sure I understand
[03:57] [alkisg] Ah I didn't see that. Yeah, that's fine too
[03:58] [nubae] which do u prefer, orange or green?
[03:59] [alkisg] http://www.gimpers.com/how-to-make-curved-text-in-gimp/
[03:59] [nubae] ah so its not so flat u mean?
[04:00] [alkisg] Or http://gimp-tutorials.net/gimp-text-to-path-tutorial
[04:00] [alkisg] Yeah, so it has the same angle as the diploma
[04:01] [nubae] ok thanks.... green or orange?
[04:01] [alkisg] orange
[04:01] [nubae] yeah more modern I think...
[04:02] [nubae] hehe, love the fact it must be a 11 or 12 year old in the video
[04:02] [nubae] btw, I used inkscape
[04:03] [alkisg] Ah, well it sure supports curved text too
[04:03] [nubae] yeah
[04:04] [nubae] is there a smaller source i can practice on to turn into an edubuntu approved .deb?
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[04:14] [nubae] alkisg: should I use this?
[04:14] [nubae] https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
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[04:51] [alkisg] nubae: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
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[13:22] [Jinux] Hey
[13:22] [Jinux] got a question:
[13:23] [Jinux] Is there anyway to customise the client chroot
[13:23] [Jinux] so they only get certain menu options etc..
[13:23] [Jinux] ?
[13:23] [alkisg] The chroot? The menus are the server menus...
[13:23] [Jinux] yeah
[13:23] [alkisg] So you need to customize the server menus, not the chroot
[13:24] [Jinux] that seems silly
[13:24] [alkisg] E.g. "edubuntu menus" has support for different menus per group, if that's what you're looking
[13:24] [alkisg] Well, ltsp clients work on the server...
[13:24] [Jinux] ooh that sounds what im looking for yeah
[13:25] [Jinux] I'm just thinking, for example: I want Add/Remove Applications in the server menu but not the clients menu
[13:25] [Jinux] so getting rid of it on the server so that it's not in the client image seems silly
[13:25] [alkisg] So you can put that only for "group=admin"
[13:25] [Jinux] hmmm alright.
[13:26] [alkisg] Well, the client image doesn't have any menus at all
[13:26] [alkisg] It just makes a "remote desktop" connection to the server
[13:26] [alkisg] So you can't remove any menus from the chroot, because it doesn't have any...
[13:26] [Jinux] Ooooooooooohhh
[13:26] [Jinux] i see!!
[13:26] [Jinux] sorry for my stupidity :P
[13:27] [alkisg] Nah, LTSP does that to people the first months :D
[13:27] [Jinux] btw, remember when you helped 'cluster' out the other day alkisg? That was me :P
[13:27] [Jinux] Thanks alot for being patient :)
[13:27] [alkisg] Ah, you keep changing names...
[13:27] [alkisg] Tricky :)
[13:27] [Jinux] yeah i know, sorry
[13:28] [Jinux] different machines
[13:28] [alkisg] I think you were using another one yesterday also... j* something
[13:28] [Jinux] joeasaurus
[13:28] [alkisg] Right, that one
[13:28] [Jinux] yeah
[13:28] [Jinux] I only just got the hang of the nickserv thing like
[13:28] [Jinux] an hour ago :P
[13:28] [alkisg] Heh
[13:29] [alkisg] Are you using fat clients? I don't remember...
[13:29] [alkisg] Because for fat clients things are different, the chroot indeed has menus there
[13:29] [Jinux] we are atm as we're just setting up LTSP as a fun-learny type thing
[13:29] [Jinux] but the command i use to make the chroot is
[13:30] [Jinux] ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --ltsp-cluster --prompt-rootpass
[13:30] [alkisg] OK, yeah then you need to use edubuntu-menus or sabayon or something similar
[13:30] [Jinux] ill have a look at edubuntu-menus
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[13:30] [Jinux] sounds perfect
[13:31] [Mathis] hello
[13:31] [Jinux] im thinking though, will I need to set it twice over our two application servers, or is there a file i can just mirror?
[13:32] [Mathis] I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 and all updates in a virtual machine and followed LTSP > Wiki > ubuntuusers.de - everything works fine so far
[13:32] [alkisg] Jinux: http://www.stgraber.org/2010/02/16/say-hi-edubuntu-menu-editor
[13:32] [Jinux] thanks :)
[13:32] [Jinux] Keep an eye our - 95% chance ill be back :P
[13:32] [Jinux] out*
[13:32] [Mathis] havent found anything about how to start a ssh daemon on the clients, how do I do that?
[13:33] [alkisg] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/PasswordlessSSH
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[13:33] [Mathis] thanks
[13:33] [alkisg] Mathis: there _are_ some security concerns about installing an ssh server on the clients...
[13:33] [Mathis] doesnt matter, its a private network
[13:33] [alkisg] OK
[13:34] [Mathis] I'm using it for transcoding DVDs in a cluster
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[13:37] [Mathis] installing openssh-server in the LTSP chroot failed trying to restart the service
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[13:38] [alkisg] It shouldn't be a problem...
[13:39] [Mathis] strange, when trying to log into a client, it asks me for the clients root password, but it replies "Permission denied, please try again."
[13:39] [Mathis] does LTSP have an own root password?
[13:40] [alkisg] There are no users in the ltsp chroot
[13:40] [alkisg] There's only the root account, which is locked, if we're talking about ubuntu
[13:40] [Mathis] we are
[13:41] [Mathis] I have booted the client in another vm and a root shell is automatically logged in
[13:41] [alkisg] That's why I wrote about "passwordless ssh' in that page...
[13:41] [alkisg] That's just a shell, you can't login as root as there's no password
[13:41] [alkisg] You can define a password if you want, though
[13:42] [alkisg] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UnlockChrootRootAcct
[13:42] [Mathis] not really
[13:42] [Mathis] but thanks
[13:55] [Mathis] it now works fine
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