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[01:12] [gnunux] hi
[01:12] [alkisg] vagrantc: hi, would diverting /sbin/modprobe be acceptable? (like we do with start-stop-daemon)?
[01:14] [vagrantc] alkisg: as long as we can reliably pass arguments on...
[01:15] [vagrantc] in general, diversions should be avoided, if at all possible ...
[01:17] [alkisg] It causes problem, e.g. that one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binfmt-support/+bug/534211
[01:17] [alkisg] I might be able to divert update-binfmts instead, but I think modprobe is the root of the problem
[01:18] [alkisg] So it would be more generic to disallow module loading on the chroot
[01:19] [vagrantc] right... which seems like a good thing.
[01:19] [vagrantc] i.e. loading modules from the chroot seems like a bad idea.
[01:20] [vagrantc] though most cases would just break, no?
[01:20] [alkisg] I'm not sure
[01:20] *** alkisg looks if he can conditionally blacklist things...
[01:21] [alkisg] Hmmm we could use the "install" modprob.conf command
[01:22] [alkisg] I.e. 'if LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=False then /sbin/modprobe ... else don't do anything'
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[01:28] [alkisg] Bah, nope, that doesn't solve the umount problem :(
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[04:21] [Q-FUNK] re
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[08:04] [Pulga] I installed ltsp 5 in ubuntu 9.10, to the login okay, but the letters appear upside down on the screen in gnome, any idea??
[08:04] [Gadi] !compiz
[08:04] [ltspbot`] Gadi: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
[08:04] [Gadi] Pulga: ^^
[08:05] [Pulga] hi
[08:05] [Pulga] this is the problem
[08:05] [Gadi] Pulga: you must disable compiz
[08:05] [Pulga] very crazy
[08:05] [Gadi] yes
[08:05] [Pulga] how to..
[08:05] [Gadi] !compiz
[08:05] [ltspbot`] Gadi: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
[08:06] [Gadi] Pulga: ^^^^
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[08:07] [alkisg] Or you may remove the proprieratyr nvidia drivers from the server :)
[08:07] [Pulga] I have a nvidia Inside
[08:07] [Pulga] !!!
[08:07] [ltspbot`] Pulga: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
[08:08] [alkisg] Yes, nvidia on the server, intel on the clients
[08:08] [Pulga] running : sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity solves the proble?
[08:08] [alkisg] Yup
[08:08] [alkisg] But that disables compiz
[08:08] [alkisg] So either of those will do
[08:08] [alkisg] (disable compiz or remove the nvidia drivers)
[08:08] [Pulga] what is compiz for??
[08:09] [alkisg] Fancy window moving
[08:09] [Pulga] ahh
[08:09] [Pulga] I will remove nvidia
[08:09] [Pulga] i think its better
[08:09] [Gadi] sure, until the next thin client with a different driver that won't let you login due to compiz
[08:10] [alkisg] Heh :D
[08:10] [Pulga] thanks, I will try..... i doens't work i'm back
[08:10] [alkisg] We need an anti-compiz moto
[08:10] [Gadi] compiz would be fine if it just did proper checks
[08:10] [alkisg] We do need to start filing bugs, though...
[08:10] [alkisg] I don't think anyone has...
[08:11] [Gadi] I sent in a patch
[08:11] [alkisg] And? any responces?
[08:11] [Gadi] that disables compiz for remote connections unless someone specifies SKIP_CHECKS="yes"
[08:11] [Gadi] never got merged
[08:11] [Gadi] :(
[08:12] [alkisg] Yeah, I guess they need per-driver-fixes
[08:12] [alkisg] ...which obviously we don't have the time for
[08:12] [Gadi] well, it would be nice if you could *disable* compiz by env var at least
[08:12] [Gadi] then, we could set the env var in LDM by default
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[08:26] [moldy] hi
[08:26] [moldy] on my terminal server, when a bunch of people is logged in, dbus runs crazy (100%cpu) and makes the system unuseable
[08:26] [moldy] is that a known issue? does anyone know anything about this?
[08:29] [AndyGraybeal] moldy from colorado?
[08:31] [alkisg] mgariepy: hi, would you have any clues about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/533964 ?
[08:33] [mgariepy] hi
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[08:35] [mgariepy] i don't use screen_02=shell since i already have a shell on vt1 by default.
[08:35] [alkisg] It happens with vt1 as well
[08:36] [alkisg] I.e. with no lts.conf at all, I sometimes get ldm over vt1
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[08:36] [alkisg] So I lose the shell there...
[08:36] [mgariepy] last week i fixed the openvt to switch to add the -s
[08:36] [alkisg] And it improved things, but I think there's still a problem...
[08:36] [mgariepy] with my tests last week this was working great, i might have an hour or so to test if i get the same issue here.
[08:37] [mgariepy] but i don't think it's gonna be today
[08:37] [alkisg] It seems to be some race condition, I'm only having the problem half of the times (or less)
[08:38] [mgariepy] last week i noticed that when i was logged on VT1, when killing Xorg, x was starting on the current vt.
[08:38] [alkisg] Right
[08:38] [mgariepy] it might have something to do with that.
[08:38] [alkisg] And if start-stop-daemon 07 is called before start-stop-daemon 01, then the problem occurs - or something like that...
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[08:38] [alkisg] So I'm wondering if we should "prefer" switching to the vt with ldm?
[08:39] [alkisg] (or rdesktop or...) :-/
[08:39] [mgariepy] i think that would duplicate the code no ?
[08:40] [mgariepy] i'll do some testing this week, i'll let you know about my results
[08:40] [alkisg] I mean, to only call chvt for that one vt, changing this code
[08:40] [alkisg] Thank you :)
[08:42] [moldy] AndyGraybeal: umm, no, sorry :)
[08:42] [AndyGraybeal] k :)
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[09:00] [jammcq] good morning friends
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[09:07] [CAN-o-SPAM] hi jammcq
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[09:16] [mgariepy] hey alkisg, for your shell/ openvt problem the problem arrive when you kill X or on logout ?
[09:16] [alkisg] mgariepy: on boot
[09:17] [mgariepy] ok
[09:17] [alkisg] *but I've also seen it on kill x _and_ on logout
[09:21] [mgariepy] alkisg, ok, i'm working ono this right now. i tought that the -s was working, but it doesn;t seam to be the case ;)
[09:21] [alkisg] mgariepy: I'm more than willing to test whatever you may find :)
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[09:26] [mgariepy] i think i know what's happening, the change on screen_session is working the way it should.
[09:26] [mgariepy] this script isn't reexecuted on logout
[09:27] [alkisg] But then why it isn't working correctly sometimes on the first boot?
[09:27] [alkisg] (without even logging in?)
[09:31] [mgariepy] if somehow the vt change, between the screen_session and the execution of the screen.d script, it's just get messed up.
[09:32] [mgariepy] so technicaly it's possible that both script are executed in parallele and the vt get confused.
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[10:14] [khris4] hello
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[10:15] [alkisg] Hi :)
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[10:45] [alkisg] I want to rename 090-clean-package-cache to 089-clean-package-cache. In plugins/Ubuntu, that is a symlink to the debian dir. I need to delete it and create a new symlink, right?
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[11:01] [AndyGraybeal] i don't know how to wrap my head around this, but i'm wondering -- is it possible to run a virtual machine kvm/qemu/libvirt as an ltsp server?
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