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[06:58] [AndyGraybeal] okay, i need some help -- i am trying to install a scanner on a client, and maybe eventually share it with everyone. i'm following these instructions: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg35849.html although i'm very confused. i have installed inetd and sane-utils as sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get... i get the testing xterm to run locally.. hurray. i'm very confused when it comes to editing the /et
[07:04] [AndyGraybeal] i'm gonna post this in #edubuntu too.. in hopes of catching an answer.
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[07:09] [AndyGraybeal] i'm sorry i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this i hope after this example (my first) i understand it.
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[07:23] [Gadi1] AndyGraybeal: if you are using any relatively new version of LTSP, you should just be able to set: SCANNER=True in lts.conf
[07:23] [Gadi1] and it will recognize your scanner
[07:23] [AndyGraybeal] ah interesting.
[07:23] [AndyGraybeal] Version: 5.1.29-0ubuntu3 <--
[07:24] [AndyGraybeal] does SCANNER=True live in the [default] section of lts.conf?
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[07:24] [Gadi1] it does if you want all clients to run the scanner daemon
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[07:25] [AndyGraybeal] ah awesome, yes
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[07:25] [AndyGraybeal] nwo to remember where lts.conf is
[07:25] [Gadi1] scanner support was added in 5.1.85
[07:26] [Gadi1] so, you may need a newer version of LTSP
[07:26] [AndyGraybeal] ah crap, i think this is the latest ltsp that ubuntu 8.10 repo has
[07:27] [AndyGraybeal] it's always something :)
[07:27] Nick change: prpplague_afk -> prpplague
[07:27] [Gadi1] well, you can always hack it in
[07:28] [Gadi1] hey, that post was from me!
[07:28] [Gadi1] hehe
[07:28] [AndyGraybeal] the http address i posted?
[07:28] [Gadi1] yeah
[07:28] [AndyGraybeal] would you mind holding my hand a little?
[07:29] [AndyGraybeal] when it comes to adding stuff to the client's identd.conf .. i'm a little confused.
[07:29] [AndyGraybeal] this url was inside that post, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo ... on how to 'serve' a scanner on 8.10
[07:30] [AndyGraybeal] you'll have to scroll down a little to see the instructions, and i almost wish there was instruction to install the scanner with LTSP in mind...
[07:31] [AndyGraybeal] the first step of the 8.10 server-side instructions are to edit the /etc/inetd.conf -- and i think that means sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/inetd.conf ... correct?
[07:31] [Gadi1] hehe
[07:31] [AndyGraybeal] sudo chroot vim /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/inetd.conf ... correct?
[07:31] [Gadi1] yeah
[07:32] [Gadi1] so, lets see
[07:32] [Gadi1] right in that file add: sane-port stream tcp nowait saned.saned /usr/sbin/saned saned
[07:33] [AndyGraybeal] okay i have done so
[07:34] [Gadi1] ok, now, I do not recall whether an empty access list means that anyone can connect
[07:34] [AndyGraybeal] so the next instruction is to 'sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart' does this mean sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[07:34] [AndyGraybeal] ?
[07:35] [Gadi1] no, you dont need that
[07:35] [Gadi1] because it should be set to start on boot
[07:35] [AndyGraybeal] okay, but do i need to restart it atleast?
[07:35] [Gadi1] (ie, you need not manually restart it now)
[07:35] [AndyGraybeal] ok
[07:35] [Gadi1] no
[07:35] [AndyGraybeal] i'm sorry
[07:35] [Gadi1] because then it will run on the server
[07:35] [Gadi1] which you do not want
[07:35] [AndyGraybeal] ah evil.. i wonder.. if i've already done such a thing
[07:36] [Gadi1] there are worse things
[07:36] [Gadi1] :)
[07:36] [AndyGraybeal] okay :)
[07:36] [AndyGraybeal] so now you are saying thqat i need to worry about access lists.
[07:36] [Gadi1] well, thats what: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sane.d/saned.conf
[07:36] [Gadi1] is
[07:36] [AndyGraybeal] okay
[07:36] [Gadi1] it is an access list
[07:37] [Gadi1] but, I am fairly sure that with no entries, it allows access to all
[07:37] [AndyGraybeal] okay - i don't mind putting the subnet in, like the instructions say.
[07:38] [Gadi1] ok
[07:38] [Gadi1] then do that to be safe
[07:38] [Gadi1] then, update the image and reboot a thin client
[07:39] [AndyGraybeal] okay awesome thank you for the help.
[07:39] [AndyGraybeal] i'm a little slow at all this.
[07:39] [Gadi1] after you log in, open a terminal window and type:
[07:40] [Gadi1] SANE_NET_HOST=${LTSP_CLIENT} xsane
[07:41] [Gadi1] that should hopefully bring up xsane and have it recognize ur scanner
[07:41] [Gadi1] if you find that your scanner is not being recognized in applications from the menu, you may need to set: export SANE_NET_HOST=${LTSP_CLIENT}
[07:42] [Gadi1] in a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
[07:42] [AndyGraybeal] interesting, confusing... okay one step at a time .. i'll brb.. i need tor ebuild and restart the client.
[07:42] [Gadi1] soorry- actually that is SANE_NET_HOSTS (plural)
[07:42] [AndyGraybeal] my head feels like it hurts with this stuff.
[07:42] [Gadi1] hehe
[07:42] [Gadi1] background info:
[07:42] [AndyGraybeal] okay, plural, thats fine.. i wondered where the hell you came up with that line.
[07:43] [Gadi1] SANE = scanner framework in Linux
[07:43] [AndyGraybeal] ok.. brb
[07:43] [Gadi1] it is client-server
[07:43] [Gadi1] so can client applications can connect to the scanner daemon over the network
[07:43] [Gadi1] you are running the scanner daemon on the client (from inetd)
[07:43] [Gadi1] and having the applications that run on the server connect to it
[07:44] [Gadi1] the environment variable SANE_NET_HOSTS tells the clients what hosts on your network have a scanner that can be connected to
[07:44] [AndyGraybeal] aah interesting.
[07:44] [Gadi1] you can also set that in a file on the application server
[07:44] [Gadi1] but, I kinda like setting it on the fly
[07:45] [Gadi1] guess thats personal preference
[07:45] [AndyGraybeal] i don't understand what you mean by 'on-the-fly'
[07:45] [Gadi1] meaning on login
[07:45] [AndyGraybeal] okay, so i don't even need to type it in again after i type it in once?
[07:45] [Gadi1] so, if you login from a thin client that actually has scanning enabled, it sets the variable to tell the apps that it is available
[07:46] [Gadi1] no. this command will prove that you have the setup working: SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT} xsane
[07:47] [Gadi1] that just sets the variable for the terminal environment that you are running
[07:47] [Gadi1] not for the whole session
[07:48] [Gadi1] to set an env variable for the whole session, you would drop a file in: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ (or some other place appropriate to the distro you use)
[07:48] [Gadi1] that sets env variables for the session
[07:48] [AndyGraybeal] okay i'm back.
[07:48] [AndyGraybeal] i'm gonna type that command in now
[07:48] [Gadi1] that way, you dont have to type it in
[07:49] [AndyGraybeal] ah.. Xsession.d .. i've never done stuff like this ever.
[07:49] [AndyGraybeal] okay, it says 'no devices available' .. brb.. i got a nother scanner i can plug in and test.
[07:54] [Gadi1] you should also make sure that you can get a shell on the thin client, so you can verify that inetd is running, etc
[07:55] [AndyGraybeal] ah like the localapps xterm thing?
[07:55] [Gadi1] yeah
[07:56] [Gadi1] or like: SCREEN_08=shell
[07:56] [AndyGraybeal] is that what you meant in the first place (run the sanehosts thing on the localapps xterm?
[07:56] [Gadi1] no no
[07:56] [Gadi1] that should run on the server
[07:56] [AndyGraybeal] ah ok
[07:56] [AndyGraybeal] okay, i've never heard of SCREEN_08=shell
[07:56] [Gadi1] oh
[07:56] [Gadi1] in lts.conf, do this:
[07:56] [Gadi1] SCREEN_07=ldm
[07:57] [Gadi1] SCREEN_08=shell
[07:57] [Gadi1] (in the [default] section)
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