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[01:04] [gnunux] hi
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[03:49] [Briareos1] hello
[03:49] [Briareos1] quick question: what could it mean when after the ubuntu-loading screen the client ends up with a blinking cursor on the top left corner of the screen?
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[04:06] [alkisg] quick answer: you need to stay longer to get an answer :)
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[04:13] [Briareos1] accidently closed my IRC client :)
[04:13] [Briareos1] so: what could it mean when after the ubuntu-loading screen the client ends up with a blinking cursor on the top left corner of the screen?
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[04:28] [alkisg] Briareos1: try removing "quiet splash" from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default, and reboot the client to better see any error messages.
[04:44] [Briareos1] alkisg: it says eth1 link down
[04:44] [alkisg] Briareos1: do you have multiple nics on the client?
[04:44] [Briareos1] alkisg: no
[04:44] [alkisg] Why "eth1" then?
[04:45] [alkisg] and not "eth0"?
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[04:45] [Briareos1] wait - i'll check myself - my colleague told me via phone - brb
[04:45] [alkisg] Also, which ubuntu version is that?
[04:46] [Briareos1] alkisg: okay, it states: r8169: eth0: link down
[04:46] [Briareos1] 8.04
[04:50] [alkisg] Briareos1: can you check your cabling?
[04:51] [alkisg] link down usually means that the cable isn't connected (or the switch or ...)
[04:51] [alkisg] If the cabling is ok, then it might be a module problem
[04:52] [Briareos1] alkisg the client get an IP from the DHCP, so i guess the cabling must be ok (?)
[04:52] [Briareos1] alkisg: which module ?
[04:54] [alkisg] Briareos1: yeah sorry then the cabling would be ok
[04:55] [alkisg] the r8169 module of the 8.04 kernel
[04:56] [alkisg] Briareos1: do you want me to send you the lucid kernel to put it in tftpboot to see if it boots with it?
[04:56] [alkisg] (it'll hang afterwards, but you'll verify if the problem is the kernel)
[05:01] [Briareos1] alkisg hmm yes please - how big is it?
[05:02] [alkisg] about 8.5 mb
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[05:08] [alkisg] Briareos1: http://rapidshare.com/files/356125824/kernel.tar.gz.html
[05:08] [Briareos1] alkisg great - thanks
[05:08] [alkisg] Put them in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 (check the symlinks to point to the correct image)
[05:17] [Briareos1] alkisg: I've downloaded the file and will try that next week. enjoy your weekend!
[05:17] [alkisg] You too
[05:19] [tthorb] Our freezing continues... Here are to other /var/logs from the client and .xsession-errors: http://www.t-t.no/ltsp/
[05:48] [Briareos1] thanks, byebye
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[05:58] [tthorb] Have anyone experiences with flash? The logs reports a bunch of problems with flash...
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[06:23] [alkisg] flash is heavy, so it needs good cpu + network
[06:23] [alkisg] It usually works ok when not full screen.
[06:23] [alkisg] !flash
[06:23] [ltspbot] alkisg: "flash" :: Yes, flash sucks. Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try the HQtube plugin. Install greasemonkey for firefox, and see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24999
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[06:24] [mgariepy] morning all
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[06:32] [tthorb] Real smart, that ltspbot... :)
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[07:41] [mordocai] So i was looking into a way to change the black text, in the upper left and right hand corners of the ldm screen, to white... and found this http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/03/ltsp-ldm-theme-for-jaunty.html. Which very plainly says it isn't possible. Just to make sure, does anyone know a way to change it? I'd like to have a dark background.
[07:44] [mordocai] Also, is there anyway to change the error message when you enter an incorrect password? "No response from server" is not very descriptive. I would be willing to go into code if needed for either change.
[07:46] [thunsucker] mordocai: you might have better luck in #ubuntu with questions about ldm
[07:47] [Gadi] no, this is the right place
[07:47] [Gadi] we wrote ldm
[07:47] [Gadi] :)
[07:47] [Gadi] mordocai: apt-get source ldm
[07:47] [thunsucker] Gadi: oh cool!
[07:47] [Gadi] inside the code, you will find a src directory
[07:48] [Gadi] and a gtkgreet directory
[07:48] [Gadi] I think you will have to change greeter.c
[07:48] [ogra] i dont :)
[07:48] [Gadi] no
[07:48] [Gadi] ?
[07:48] [ogra] you should be able to just create a custom systemwide gtkrc :)
[07:48] [Gadi] to change font colors?
[07:48] [Gadi] ah
[07:48] [ogra] yep
[07:49] [Gadi] I guess you could do that too
[07:49] [ogra] might influence localapps, not sure
[07:49] [Gadi] ldm honors that sort of thing? :)
[07:49] [ogra] gtk does
[07:49] [Gadi] unless you explicitly set font colors
[07:49] [ogra] i think there are gtkrc files in the themes
[07:49] [ogra] if nopbody changed the greeter to massively since i looked last
[07:49] [Gadi] ah, ok, well there ya go
[07:50] *** ogra digs in the depts of his ancient mind ...
[07:50] [mordocai] hmm... okay. So where is the system wide gtkrc? I'm actually using fedora. Oh, and would the error message be in greeter.c?
[07:50] [Gadi] sure enough - greeter-gtkrc
[07:51] [ogra] heh, yeah
[07:51] [sbalneav] Morning all
[07:51] [Gadi] mordocai: have a look in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/fedora
[07:51] [Gadi] or some such
[07:51] [Gadi] you can prolly mess with the greeter-gtkrc file there for fonts
[07:52] [ogra] for the message you will have to hack in deeper areas though
[07:53] [Gadi] that message is in: src/sshutils.c
[07:53] [ogra] thats buried somewhere in scotties ssh layer
[07:53] [ogra] yeah
[07:53] [Gadi] or you can just change the language translations
[07:53] [Gadi] most likely
[07:53] [Gadi] right?
[07:53] [mordocai] Okay, sounds good. I think i'll have to go find the ldm code online though... fedora doesn't seem to have a source package.
[07:53] [ogra] thats a bit harder than just changing it in the code i guess
[07:54] [ogra] fiddling with gettext etc
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[08:04] [mordocai] Hmm... so all the text that is black seems to be dealing with menus... maybe i really can't change it.
[08:14] [mordocai] So, could someone take a look at the readme in the source of ldm real quick? I believe step 5 should be copy rc.d/* to $CHROOT/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/
[08:16] [mordocai] And while we're at it... i think step 4 should be copy src/ldm to $CHROOT/usr/sbin and step 6 should be copy gtkgreet/ldmgtkgreet to $CHROOT/usr/libexec/ldm
[08:18] [mordocai] And to be more precise, i mean the ldm-trunk branch on launchpad.
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[08:19] [mordocai] ls
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[08:22] [mordocai] Oh... and in addition, step 2 should be ./configure --prefix=/usr not ./configure --prefix=usr. the second one doesn't work :P
[08:24] [ogra] heh, nobody really builds from plain upstream, feel free to create a launchapd branch with fixes for that readme :)
[08:24] [ogra] and propose it for merging
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[08:25] [tthorb] Freeze again! Firefox-plugin again: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/nppdf.so
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[08:26] [tthorb] But how to remove that!?
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[08:33] Nick change: prpplague_afk -> prpplague
[08:34] [mordocai] ogra: Do you happen to know how i could edit the sshutils.c to where it only gives my incorrect password message if the password is wrong? I don't know enough about ssh to know what the code is actually looking for. I think it's looking for the number of ':' in whatever ssh is sending them back? So, any idea if i can check for an "password incorrect" response?
[08:34] [ogra] no, ask sbalneav
[08:34] [ogra] he wrote that part of ldm
[08:35] [alkisg] I think he'll be focusing on libpam-ssh now, and that would make sshutils.c obsolete...
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[08:36] [mordocai] Okay, well I just needed a quick fix on the error message. Saying no response from server when it's the wrong password would jsut confuse users... if he's reworking it, then i can wait for a better fix.
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[08:37] [mordocai] So, i got it to say Incorrect password... that should work from now. The line else if (seen < 0) just seems like there could be multiple errors besides the password being wrong that could be true there.
[08:38] [mordocai] s/from/for/
[08:40] [ogra] i think he wrote it to have a way to handle "password expired" and fire up a dialog based on that
[08:41] [ogra] originally ldm only did plain screen scraping from ssh and forwarded messages into the greeter ... but such interactive tasks werent possible with that
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[08:45] [mordocai] In any case, it definitely looks like, to me, the font i'm looking to change is somewhere in the code... because i didn't change the theme, but when i installed the trunk ldm the text was moved to the lower right-hand corner, and it seems to be a darker black...
[08:47] [ogra] the font is a system font
[08:47] [alkisg] Ugh /var/cache/run/archives is still mounted when ltsp-build-client calls ltsp-update-image. That got me a 13 Gb nbd image... :-/
[08:48] [ogra] could be worse :)
[08:48] [johnny] alkisg, isn't therer some --exclude in the mksquashfs call?
[08:48] [mordocai] ogra: yeah, but i'm looking to change the color of the font... (should have said that)
[08:49] [johnny] perhaps you should make it settable in /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf ?
[08:49] [alkisg] johnny: the sequence is wrong - unmounting should happend before the ltsp-update-image call
[08:49] [ogra] moldy, you did say that ... and the colors are read from the gtkrc
[08:49] [johnny] sure.. but there are probably lots of other useful things to clean too
[08:49] [ogra] err
[08:49] *** alkisg looks at the plugins sequence..
[08:49] [johnny] like man pages and whatnot alkisg
[08:49] [ogra] mordocai, ^^^
[08:49] [johnny] docs for system apps nobody needs, etc
[08:49] [johnny] all the locales/langs you don't need
[08:50] [mordocai] Well, that's what i mean. I've changed all the colors in that file(i think) and none of them changed it.
[08:50] [alkisg] johnny: nah I don
[08:50] [alkisg] *don't care about those, those are the responsibility of the admin who creates the ltsp-build-client.conf file
[08:50] [ogra] mordocai, you need to *add* an entry, by default no color is defined for the font :)
[08:50] [johnny] alkisg, sure.. but you're the admin :)
[08:50] [johnny] i'm talkingabout you
[08:50] [ogra] youaretalkingabouthim ?
[08:51] [alkisg] johnny: sure, if I don't want them I just blacklist them. No need to install them and remove them afterwards...
[08:51] [alkisg] talking about sysadmins: http://xkcd.com/705/
[08:52] [mordocai] ogra: oh... okay. That makes more sense now :P. Do you know what exactly i need to add?(if not i'll look it up)
[08:52] [mordocai] alkisg: LOVE xkcd... and that comic made me laugh for a very long time.
[08:52] [ogra] not from the top of my head
[09:00] [mordocai] ogra: hmm... well one of the settings in that file is setting it, actually. I looked up gtkrc's online, and couldn't find a setting that wasn't already in that one. So, i did sed -i s/\"#.*\"/\"#FFFFFF\"/ greeter-gtkrc and it changed it... so now i just need to figure out which one it is.
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