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[01:40] [zeltron] Hello
[01:41] [zeltron] Still looking for help on ltsp-cluster
[01:42] [zeltron] First : In nstallation with Jaunty like it's discribed on ltsp-cluster website , load balancer doesn't work
[01:43] [zeltron] I tried the same work with karmic, and it's OK. I think lbserver in ltsp-cluster is broken, or incompatible with something in jaunty
[01:44] [zeltron] Where could I send this for someone more efficient than me could verify ?
[01:45] [ogra] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp-cluster/+filebug
[01:45] [zeltron] Second thing : When the client boots (with my new karmic installation), it dislays a screen with hardware information before ldm
[01:45] [zeltron] ogra : ok
[01:46] [zeltron] On this screen, the mouse doesn't work :
[01:46] [zeltron] I move it, but no cursor appears.
[01:47] [zeltron] At a certain position, the 'OK' button highlights
[01:47] [zeltron] (that means the cursor is on it, i think, but you can't see it)
[01:48] [zeltron] When the button is highlighted, a mouse clic doesn't work, you've got to press the 'enter key
[01:48] [zeltron] Not really user-friendly !
[01:49] [zeltron] As someone a solution to fix this problem : make the mouse work, or even shunt this screen, that is not really usefull for my users
[01:49] [zeltron] (Has)... sorry
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[06:00] [_UsUrPeR_] morning all
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[07:51] [anivair] So i'm looking for assistance with a sound issue (posted to the email list already a while back).
[07:52] [anivair] if I use a sip phone (say twinkle), it works great on the server, but I get either on audio or stuttering audio (when set to mono) on a thin client
[07:52] [anivair] if I open up the sound preferences, the audio clears up just fine, but eventually the stutter comes back
[07:52] [Appiah] localapp?
[07:53] [anivair] not sure how. never done it. is there a toturial or walkthrough somewhere?
[07:53] [Gadi] tried setting the app's sound output to pulseaudio?
[07:54] [anivair] no option. the program thinks it's using alsa (though it thinks that on the server, too). I have options for alsa or a manually specified device, pretty much
[07:55] [Gadi] try setting sound preferences to pulseaudio?
[07:55] [Gadi] (system sound preferences, that is)
[07:57] [anivair] er ... I don't seem to have an option for that in the system sound preferences. Where am I looking?
[07:58] [Gadi] You don't have pull downs fo what to use for sound events, etc
[08:00] [anivair] I have 5 tabs: Sound effects, hardware, input, output, applications
[08:00] [anivair] no real drop downs save for things like speakers
[08:05] [Gadi] anivair: actually, as Appiah says, you may be better off just running the sip phone as a local app
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[08:06] [Gadi] anivair: simply: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install <package
[08:06] [anivair] is there a tutorial for setting them up? I have never set up anything as a localapp in ltsp and I honestly don't know how, but I gladly will
[08:06] [Gadi] and then sudo ltsp-update-image
[08:06] [anivair] okay
[08:06] [Gadi] finally, in lts.conf, add: LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True to have the choice from the gnome menu run the local app
[08:06] [anivair] okay
[08:07] [anivair] I presume I should remove the one I have first?
[08:07] [Gadi] I should actually ask you what distro you are using
[08:07] [Gadi] I was assuming ubuntu
[08:07] [anivair] it is ubuntu
[08:07] [Gadi] ok
[08:07] [Gadi] no need to remove what you have
[08:07] [anivair] okay
[08:07] [Gadi] it will override it
[08:07] [Gadi] (or at least it should)
[08:08] [Gadi] usually you will know a localapp because the title will change from, say "twinkle" to "twinkle on ltsp001" or soe such
[08:08] [Gadi] *some
[08:08] [Gadi] for example, if you run from a terminal window: ltsp-localapps xterm
[08:08] [Gadi] it should open a local app xterm
[08:09] [anivair] excellent!
[08:09] [anivair] any other programs that is recommended for?
[08:09] [anivair] now that I know how
[08:11] [Gadi] many people install firefox+java+flash there in order to reduce load on the server and increase video performance for streaming video
[08:11] [Gadi] just remember, the more apps you run locally, the more power you need locally
[08:12] [Gadi] and you have to remember to update the chroot if you want updates to those programs
[08:12] [Gadi] but, localapps is great for apps that really like realtime access to the client hardware
[08:12] [_UsUrPeR_] sbalneav: ping?
[08:14] [anivair] thanks a lot
[08:15] [carbm1] I think the Local Apps just answered my question... I'm wanting to use one username that automatically signs into our LTSP but you can't run Firefox on multiple computers. So thats my fix? Run the Firefox/Flash from the local machine?
[08:16] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: unfortunately, gnome does not respond well to multiple logins
[08:17] [carbm1] I'm planning on setting everything as read only... Think it will still be a problem?
[08:17] [Gadi] carbm1: thats *a* fix, but, you could attack it other ways, as well
[08:18] [carbm1] This is going to be for student computers in a secondary school... security is not an issue. I just need them to get online to a flash website.
[08:18] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: You can create multiple accounts, and have them log on based on mac address.
[08:18] [Gadi] carbm1: if you have decent lmachines, localapps is a nice solution for that
[08:19] [Gadi] er, actually, no
[08:19] [carbm1] ... I'm very interested! How based on mac address.
[08:19] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: ?
[08:19] [Gadi] right - listen to _UsUrPeR_
[08:19] [Gadi] :)
[08:19] [Gadi] lol
[08:19] [_UsUrPeR_] :O
[08:19] [carbm1] The computers are 350Mhz-500Mhz 196MB RAM.
[08:19] [_UsUrPeR_] ok
[08:19] [Gadi] Im a bit out of sorts this morning
[08:19] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: guh
[08:19] *** Gadi crawls back into corner
[08:20] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: I may recommend more RAM before continuing down the localapps route.
[08:20] [carbm1] believe me... if I had a choice and a budget they would have been recycled a long time ago.
[08:20] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: I understand. You work with what you have.
[08:20] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: wait, get out of the cornet for a second. is it ldm_user, ldm_pass, ldm_autologin = yes?
[08:21] [_UsUrPeR_] s/cornet/corner
[08:21] [carbm1] So, local apps may not be the right choice? Is there a howto for automatic signon based on mac address?
[08:22] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: I am going to get you a lts.conf config file and some instructions in just a moment here.
[08:22] [anivair] hrm ... when i run ltsp-update-image I get this: /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist
[08:22] [anivair] that is no good
[08:22] [carbm1] Thanks!
[08:22] [anivair] should I have installed it to amd64 instead of i386?
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[08:23] [Gadi] anivair: ltsp-update-image --arch i386
[08:23] [anivair] right-o
[08:29] [anivair] last question: should I edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf or should I create /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, as that file recommends, for the addition of the local app menu item?
[08:30] [_UsUrPeR_] carbm1: http://pastebin.com/m6d7ace83
[08:30] [Gadi] the latter
[08:30] [_UsUrPeR_] brb
[08:30] [Gadi] anivair: and don't forget the [default] line
[08:31] [anivair] I already have, heh. let me check the existing one to see if it has an example
[08:32] [Gadi] _UsUrPeR_: didn't we have code in there that uses the hostname for the username when LDM_USERNAME is not supplied with utologin?
[08:34] [anivair] so I keep everything that's already in the [default] line (color depth, localdev, etc) and just add a local app line?
[08:35] [Gadi] every line under [default] applies to all clients
[08:35] [Gadi] to set something just for one particular client, create a stanza with [<MAC>]
[08:35] [Gadi] where MAC is the MAC address of the client
[08:36] [anivair] I do want this to apply to every client, certainly
[08:36] [anivair] but do I need to leave the lines that are in the example file, or should I blank those out and just use the local app line?
[08:36] [anivair] (ie: if I take out what is in the example, will that break my thin clients?)
[08:36] [Gadi] you can simply have:
[08:36] [Gadi] [default]
[08:37] [Gadi] LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True
[08:37] [Gadi] like that
[08:38] [anivair] thanks
[08:39] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: (in reference to the hostname for username) If it exists, this is the first I have heard of it. Sounds useful though :)
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[08:40] [anivair] I'm off to play with that and see if that helps. Thanks for the help setting it up.
[08:40] [_UsUrPeR_] anivair: sorry. Was not sure what else you wanted to do with your lts.conf. One important thing: if you put ldm_autologin = True below [DEFAULT], you will not be able to boot a client normally if it does not have an ldm_username and ldm_password attached to it
[08:41] [_UsUrPeR_] shawnp0wers: hello there
[08:41] [shawnp0wers] Hi. :)
[08:41] *** shawnp0wers is in the Traverse City airport, waiting for a plane...
[08:43] [_UsUrPeR_] Traverse City, huh? Popular summer destination... What's it like in Feb?
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[08:46] [anivair] that's okay, I think what I got will be just fine
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[08:53] [carbm1] sorry, had to step out. Whats the correct synax for the MAC address? With :'s or with dashes... Do I have to add 01- to the begining like pxelinux requires?
[08:54] [carbm1] sorry, looking at examples on google looks like I use it just like normal. Thanks.
[08:55] [alkisg] !lts.conf
[08:55] [ltspbot] alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
[08:55] [Gadi] carbm1: normal - with colons
[08:55] [carbm1] alkisg, Thanks for your help yesterday also! I didn't get a chance to thank you!
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[08:57] [alkisg] np
[09:00] [carbm1] Apparently its not trying to download the lts.conf. My DHCP/PXE is on a different server and I've tried putting it on the LTSP Server and my PXE Server. Is there a way to specify where to get the lts.conf file?
[09:06] [carbm1] http://pastebin.com/m75381a68
[09:07] [carbm1] Thats on my PXE boot server that actually connects to the LTSP server. It boots but it doesn't seem to matter what I put in ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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[09:11] [alkisg] carbm1: you need to send the filename for the "Linux ipconfig" vendor identifier
[09:12] [alkisg] What's your dhcpd.conf ?
[09:12] [alkisg] (or, make a symlink from /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf)
[09:12] [alkisg] (a relative one, eitherwise tftpd-hpa will refuse to follow it)
[09:14] [carbm1] I copied it and it still didn't seem to work... let me try some more testing.
[09:14] [carbm1] For me my PXE/DHCP is on a SLES10.2 box. The LTSP is a Ubuntu 9.10 box.
[09:14] [alkisg] carbm1: wait, where do you put your lts.conf, in which server?
[09:15] [alkisg] In the dhcp server or in the nbd server?
[09:15] [carbm1] tried on the dhcp/pxe server first.
[09:15] [carbm1] I haven't tried the nbd server yet.
[09:15] [alkisg] I think it will try to pull it from the nbdserver in your case
[09:16] [carbm1] *fingers crossed.
[09:16] [alkisg] (echo "get ${tftpath:-/ltsp/i386}/lts.conf"|/bin/tftp ${NBD_ROOT_SERVER} >/dev/null 2>&1)
[09:17] [alkisg] Yup, it uses the nbd server
[09:19] [carbm1] So, on the nbd server.. which is Ubuntu. The file lts.conf should be in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 ?
[09:19] [carbm1] or /var/lib/tftpboot?
[09:20] [alkisg] It depends on your dhcpd.conf
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