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[10:10] [alkisg] !Gadi++ :)
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[10:58] [moldy] hi
[10:58] [moldy] where is the udev rules file in karmic?
[10:58] [moldy] the manual says /opt/ltsp/<arch>/etc/udev/rules.d/<some-letter-and-number>-ltspfd.rule
[10:59] [moldy] but i don't see such a file on my system
[10:59] [alkisg] dpkg -L udev
[11:00] [moldy] alkisg: on the client?
[11:01] [alkisg] anywhere - just to see the paths...
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[11:01] [moldy] well, the paths differ on client and server
[11:02] [moldy] client just has 2 files for persistent net and cd stuff
[11:02] [moldy] also, the file i am looking for is not part of the udev package, i think?
[11:05] [moldy] it's /lib/udev/rules.d
[11:05] [alkisg] Which file are you looking for?
[11:05] [moldy] alkisg: i want to enable local hard disk access on the thin client
[11:05] [vagrantc] recent versionsm of udev moved the location ... docs should be updated.
[11:06] [moldy] LTSPManual.html says i should edit /opt/ltsp/<arch>/etc/udev/rules.d/<some-letter-and-number>-ltspfd.rule
[11:07] [moldy] hm, 80-ltspfsd.rules already contains an entry that looks like it should detect hard disks
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[11:14] [vagrantc] moldy: local hard disks are excluded, you need to set an lts.conf option ...
[11:15] [vagrantc] LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=false
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[12:04] [moldy] vagrantc: thanks
[12:04] [moldy] vagrantc: i can never remember where all those lts.conf options are documented
[12:05] [moldy] that one in particular does not seem to be documented at all
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[12:08] [vagrantc] !lts.conf
[12:08] [ltspbot] vagrantc: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
[12:08] [vagrantc] there's also an upstream version
[12:09] [vagrantc] yes, ltsp-docs doesn't seem to document it ...
[12:09] [vagrantc] that's a fairly important one *sigh*
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[14:46] [comfrey] vagrantc: that backport is good to go?
[14:47] [comfrey] oh, and is it a bug that the default dnsmask.conf for debian is pointing at nbi rather than nfs?
[14:53] [comfrey] nevermind .. i just need to build the correct arch i think...
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[14:58] [vagrantc] comfrey: freegeek is using it
[14:58] *** comfrey updates sources.list
[14:59] [vagrantc] comfrey: it points to pxelinux for clients that report pxe, and nbi for clients that report etherboot
[15:00] [vagrantc] comfrey: you'll also have to manually specify the backports when building... it's a little clunky.
[15:01] [vagrantc] comfrey: ltsp-build-client --pin-dist lenny-backports --pin-packages 'ltsp-client ltsp-client-core ltspfsd ltspfsd-core ldm' --extra-mirror 'http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main' --apt-key /etc/apt/trusted.gpg # assuming you've got backports.org keys in your keyring.
[15:02] [vagrantc] think that ought to do it.
[15:03] [vagrantc] i was really hoping to have 5.1.99 on backports.org, but the broken mipsel buildd's are preventing it from migrating to testing...
[15:03] [vagrantc] i've been fighting all day with my mipsel box, but it is apparently unstable.
[15:04] [vagrantc] don't know if it's my hardware or the software...
[15:05] [vagrantc] i've got to update the backports page ... it's a little more complicated than i'd like... i wonder if it will work to just have a --backports option.
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[15:11] [comfrey] vagrantc: interesting, thanks. it looks like amd64 is not supported out of alioth.
[15:12] [comfrey] i guess i'll head to backports.org
[15:12] [vagrantc] comfrey: you want amd64 clients? or the server packages aren't available?
[15:12] [comfrey] server packages
[15:12] [comfrey] what do you recomend?
[15:13] [vagrantc] you could just pull the server-side packages from squeeze- there's no changes to any of those in the backports.
[15:13] [vagrantc] they were trivial rebuild backports.
[15:13] [vagrantc] oh, ltspfs may require actual backporting at this point.
[15:13] [vagrantc] well, trivial rebuild style.
[15:18] [comfrey] does the backport hav 337 more dependancies than the regular lenny package?
[15:19] [vagrantc] yes, but they should all be satisfyable in lenny.
[15:19] [comfrey] why so many more dependancies?
[15:20] [vagrantc] a lot of new features :)
[15:20] [vagrantc] if you really don't want them all, you can just use --early-packages 'ltsp-client-core $foo $bar $baz'
[15:22] [comfrey] ok, rad.
[15:23] [comfrey] off for tea while 530 MB come down
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[15:39] [Gadi_eeepc] vagrantc, alkisg: I modified ltsp-update-image today making it a bit more intelligent (hopefully) in establishing ports and writing configs
[15:39] [Gadi_eeepc] Tests well on my end, but looking forward to some additional testing
[15:39] [alkisg] Hey Gadi. I'm looking at it right now :)
[15:39] [vagrantc] Gadi_eeepc: yeah, saw that.
[15:39] [alkisg] Gadi_eeepc: would you mind if I excluded /proc in mksquashfs by default?
[15:39] [alkisg] Because right now, it'll break with fat clients...
[15:40] [vagrantc] comfrey: just committed a plugin to make backports support much simpler.
[15:40] [vagrantc] alkisg: you'll have to figure out some way to add it back in
[15:40] [comfrey] vagrantc: rad ... you need any work these days?
[15:40] [vagrantc] alkisg: i.e. the emty directory needs to be there.
[15:40] [Gadi_eeepc] alkisg: oh, I see - there's code to unmount /proc but if it does not unmount, it still get included, eh?
[15:41] [alkisg] vagrantc: ah. I saw it as an example in the mksquashfs man page, and I thought it would work out of the box...
[15:41] [Gadi_eeepc] perhaps we can use umount -l?
[15:41] [Gadi_eeepc] or are we anti that?
[15:41] [alkisg] Gadi_eeepc: I had added an unmount -l for the fat clients case, in case everything goes wrong - I don't have any clean solutions right now, so a workaround should suffice...
[15:42] [Gadi_eeepc] ok
[15:42] [alkisg] umount -l works for me. I know it's not clean, but it's not ltsp-update-image's fault..
[15:42] [alkisg] OK, I'll add it tomorrow
[15:42] [alkisg] Another thing, about /etc/default/ltsp-update-image
[15:42] [Gadi_eeepc] I didnt muck with the generation code
[15:42] [Gadi_eeepc] mostly just the port stuff
[15:42] [Gadi_eeepc] and the cfg file writing
[15:42] [alkisg] 1) It should be included *before* the parameters handling, and
[15:42] [alkisg] 2) shouldn't that go to /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf, like all other files?
[15:43] [alkisg] (you didn't change that, I was this way before...)
[15:43] [stgraber] btw, I'd like to tag 5.2 on Wednesday if possible. That's assuming we get nbd-proxy fixed by then ...
[15:43] [stgraber] so I can upload 5.2 just before FF on Thursday
[15:43] [Gadi_eeepc] I definitely agree with #2
[15:44] [alkisg] Gadi_eeepc: about 1), it just means that command line parameters override the defaults in the file.
[15:44] [Gadi_eeepc] as for #1, I dont think it matters
[15:44] [Gadi_eeepc] oh, I see
[15:44] [Gadi_eeepc] ur right
[15:44] [Gadi_eeepc] command line should override
[15:45] [Gadi_eeepc] Il move it to the top and recommit
[15:45] [alkisg] So generally it is: 1) conffiles 2) parameters 3) defaults...
[15:47] [Gadi_eeepc] pushed
[15:48] [Gadi_eeepc] alkisg: I realized why there was some weirdness as to what ltsp-update-image does versus ltsp-update-kernels. Its simply because not all distros call l-u-i
[15:48] [Gadi_eeepc] but aall call l-u-k
[15:48] [Gadi_eeepc] so, all the nbd port stuff for the image needs to be part of l-u-i
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