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[00:53] [gnunux] hi
[00:59] [Appiah] yo
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[02:52] [wim_] We have setup LTSP in Debian Lenny (5.0.4) and all our thin clients are booting fine. Now we bought a mainboard (Intel® Desktop Board D945GSEJT) with a Realtek Ethernet Card. When I try to boot this client over PXE I get following error. line 174: Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf. It seems that debian lenny did not include this module needed for this card. Any ideas how to solve this? Many thanks
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[02:58] [Appiah] if you are sure its a matter of a missing module I'd suggest you try to include it
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[03:01] [Appiah] Do you got multiple nics on the thin client wim_ ?
[03:02] [Appiah] if yes its a known bug
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[03:36] [wim_] no i don't have multiple nics in my thin client. I tested it with ubuntu 9.04 live cd, network worked out of the box. with debian 5.0.3 live cd, no network. How can I include this module?
[03:37] [Appiah] build it i'd guess
[03:41] [Appiah] download the driver source for the NIC, compile it , include it
[03:41] [Appiah] refeer to debian docs for that
[03:42] [Appiah] if the network works on ubuntu maybe you could just make a ubuntu chroot for that client instead
[03:44] [alkisg] Or maybe you could install a newer kernel on the chroot...
[03:44] [wim_] is there somewhere more information how to include this module in the kernel, these are production servers and I don't want to mess up things
[03:44] [Appiah] is there no debian live with later kernel?
[03:45] [Appiah] 5.0.3 is from 10-01-25
[03:46] [wim_] ive got this from http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
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[07:06] [akSeya] hi there
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[07:50] [vbundi] Mornin all
[07:52] [sbalneav] Morning all
[07:55] [vbundi] morning
[07:55] [akSeya] i have a little problem here.. my network already has a DHCP server which I don't have access... is there a way to set my LTSP server to get an IP from that server and give it to the machines? or, a way to my DHCP server answers only to clients that are trying to boot PXE and ignore other requests..
[07:56] [akSeya] morning ;)
[07:56] [sbalneav] There are two ways to solve that.
[07:57] [sbalneav] 1) Partition off your thin clients on a separate switch, with a separate ethernet card. So there's two ethernet cards in the ltsp server, one for your main connection, one to handle the clients.
[07:58] [sbalneav] then the dhcpd server on the ltsp box just serves the clients.
[07:58] [sbalneav] the second is to use dnsmasq
[07:58] [sbalneav] but I don't know how to do 2). Others do.
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[07:58] [sbalneav] I don't use it myself, as I prefer partitioning the traffic for thin clients off on it's own subnet.
[07:58] [akSeya] will search for dnsmasq ;)
[08:00] [akSeya] isn't there a "Dhcp proxy" thing?
[08:00] [sbalneav] that's what dnsmasq is
[08:00] [reynolds] Does anyone have an opinion about server processors? I am looking to buy a server for my school that will support 60+ clients occasionally using flash. I am debating between xeon and i7 processors.
[08:01] [akSeya] hum.. ok then :D
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[08:01] [sep] if you have 60 people occasionaly using flash "at the same time" you have a big problem
[08:01] [sep] if you have a user ocassionaly using flash you might live
[08:01] [sbalneav] akSeya: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
[08:02] [reynolds] I can local-app flash for many of the clients, but want some overhead.
[08:03] [akSeya] sbalneav: damn!! that's what I was looking for!!!
[08:03] [akSeya] thanks a lot!!!
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[08:18] [vbundi] Gadi: after a fresh install yesterday my client is booting much faster for some reason, (haven't change ltspfs_entry) http://imagebin.org/84530
[08:19] [vbundi] bootchart looks totally different too
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[08:21] [Gadi] vbundi: interesting
[08:21] [Gadi] I wonder if you had any issue with the drive IO to the drive that /opt/ltsp/images/ lives on
[08:22] *** Gadi is on a drive IO kick because he has a failing hard drive at home
[08:22] [Gadi] which makes it quite evident how much 300kbps IO speeds can cripple a system
[08:22] [Gadi] ;)
[08:22] [vbundi] lol
[08:23] [Gadi] vbundi: and I can tell from that install that you don't even have some of the additional recent optimizations we have been making
[08:23] [vbundi] I hope they aren't failing, they raid 1 setup is 1 month old
[08:23] [vbundi] Gadi: really? I added Stephens repository
[08:23] [Gadi] this is a VM, right?
[08:23] [vbundi] the server is a real server
[08:24] [Gadi] yeah, we have some extra stuff since stephane's last upload
[08:24] [vbundi] oh nice
[08:24] *** Gadi is awaiting his next upload to his ppa
[08:24] [Gadi] ah real server
[08:24] [Gadi] drives are local or NAS/NFS?
[08:24] [vbundi] local
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[08:24] [Gadi] good
[08:25] [Gadi] was it like that before?
[08:25] [vbundi] yes
[08:25] [Gadi] ok - so that prolly wasn't it
[08:25] [vbundi] what IS different hough
[08:25] [vbundi] *though
[08:25] [vbundi] is the previous install, I installed server 9.10 x64 and installed ltsp manually
[08:26] [vbundi] ie apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone etc
[08:26] [vbundi] this time I used the Alternate CD "Install LTSP Server" option
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[08:26] [vbundi] so maybe I was missing something
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[08:28] [Gadi] interesting
[08:30] [vbundi] wow look at this.. was auto generated, obviously I did not do this http://pastebin.org/90683
[08:31] [vbundi] that's my /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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[08:31] [Gadi] huh - looks like there's more code that someone changed that needs cleaning up
[08:31] [Gadi] :P
[08:31] [Gadi] this time it wasnt me
[08:32] [Gadi] :)
[08:32] [vbundi] apparently
[08:32] [Gadi] ok.... who's been messing with ltsp-update-kernels??? fess up....
[08:32] [Gadi] ;)
[08:33] [vbundi] I cleaned up the file... ran ltsp-update-kernels and it screw it up again
[08:33] [vbundi] sorry it DIDNT screw it up again
[08:33] [Gadi] hmmm....
[08:33] [alkisg] Known bug
[08:33] [alkisg] I've reported that a while bug, along with a small fix
[08:34] [alkisg] But then it stuck in the "I'd prefer a total rewrite" idea :P
[08:34] [Gadi] hehe
[08:34] [vbundi] nice :)
[08:34] *** Gadi cheers alkisg on to bzr commit
[08:34] [alkisg] The dns one? It was about time - I thought we had dhcp dns since 1-2 years, and we didn't! :)
[08:35] [Gadi] wow - ur starting to sound like ogra
[08:35] [vbundi] ok so running ltsp-update-image --arch i386 is doing it
[08:35] [alkisg] The bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/504733
[08:36] [alkisg] Heh! So in 2 years I'm going to be messing with ARMs? Omg...!
[08:37] [vbundi] alkisg: my install from a day ago did not do this
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[08:38] [vbundi] that setup was ubuntu server 9.10 with ltsp installed after... whereas this setup is alternate CD "Install LTSP Server" option (in case you didn't see when I posted that earlier)
[08:39] *** alkisg looks at the logs...
[08:41] [alkisg] vbundi: about a year ago, vagrantc changed pxelinux.cfg/default to contain multiple lines instead of one
[08:42] [alkisg] vbundi: since then, if someone uses a different port than 2000, pxelinux.cfg/default is not working correctly,
[08:42] [vbundi] ohhhh
[08:42] [alkisg] because the "add nbdport=xxx" code is dumb and adds it to all the lines, assuming that it still only contains one line
[08:42] [vbundi] so the reason mine is doing this now and it didn't before... is because I have an amd64 chroot now
[08:42] [alkisg] Because you have 2 chroots
[08:42] [vbundi] yes
[08:42] [Gadi] shouldn't ltsp-update-kernels read in the current ports from inetd.conf and use those? and if none exist, start at a base port and increment for each chroot?
[08:43] [alkisg] Gadi, sure, and it should even write it to $ROOT/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf for update-kernels to get it later on
[08:44] [alkisg] (e.g. to create an .nbd image)
[08:44] [alkisg] *nbi
[08:44] [Gadi] why?
[08:44] [Gadi] what does the nbi have to do with the port number?
[08:44] [alkisg] It doesn't use pxelinux.cfg/default, so it doesn't have any (other) way of knowing the nbd port
[08:44] [Gadi] dhcpd.conf?
[08:45] [alkisg] It would be really nice, but we don't use it
[08:45] [vbundi] oo I've never noticed mksquashfs say it uses all cores
[08:45] [alkisg] (and it wouldn't work in my particular use case, as I'm using proxydhcp)
[08:45] [Gadi] we should really deprecate nbi
[08:46] [Gadi] now that etherboot has PXE
[08:46] [alkisg] I think there are some TCs that have etherboot though, and are not easily flashable
[08:46] [Gadi] ah
[08:46] [alkisg] But it's broken in Karmic anyway :P
[08:46] [alkisg] ...and noone cared enough to fix it!
[08:46] [Gadi] speaks volumes
[08:46] [alkisg] Yup
[08:47] [Gadi] anyhow, if the limitation of etherboot is that it has to be on the base port
[08:47] [Gadi] I don't think too many people would holler
[08:47] [alkisg] No, it just has the kernel parameters hard-coded
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