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[01:15] [alkisg] Concerning the udhcp script, I think it will be less hacky and more readable to do the following:
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[01:16] [alkisg] 1) Split the udhcp script in two, so that a separate script exists than is called by the udhcpc client.
[01:16] [alkisg] *that
[01:17] [gnunux] hi
[01:17] [alkisg] 2) Copy that script in the initramfs, *in the same path* where it is in the chroot
[01:17] [alkisg] E.g. in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/udhcp-called-script.sh
[01:18] [alkisg] This will result in a "weird" initramfs, which will contain a /usr/share path
[01:18] [alkisg] 3) Call udhcpc -s /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/udhcp-called-script.sh. This way it will find it in the initramfs, but it will also find it afterwards, when the lease expires and is called again
[01:19] [alkisg] I think using two scripts will be more readable than just one. stgraber, vagrantc, any thoughts on that?
[01:20] [alkisg] Or we could put that script in /bin, to avoid creating a weird path...
[01:20] [alkisg] ...hmm maybe that one's better.
[01:23] [alkisg] stgraber, vagrantc: so is it OK if I put an extra script, /sbin/udhcpc-called-script, in ltsp-client-core?
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[01:23] [alkisg] (and copy it to /sbin/ in the initramfs from the udhcp hook?)
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[01:25] [alkisg] I think that's a quite clean solution..
[01:28] [alkisg] Ah, better yet, why not use the default location, /etc/udhcpc/default.script
[01:28] [alkisg] This way we won't even need a -s parameter to udhcpc
[01:32] [alkisg] Nah udhcpc already provides that file... so maybe, /etc/udhcpc/ltsp.script
[01:47] [vagrantc] alkisg: i don't see any problem with a weird distant path...
[01:48] [alkisg] vagrantc: on second thought, I think a conffile in /etc/udhcpc/ltsp.script would be better
[01:49] [alkisg] It would save the code reader from having to understand about a hacky script that is called multiple times for *different* purposes
[01:49] [alkisg] And if some admin needs to do something special on dhcp leases, a conffile works better on upgrades
[01:50] [alkisg] (...but "readable" is my main concern :))
[01:51] [alkisg] It will require a small change in packaging, though...
[01:52] [alkisg] ...so I'd need approval before commiting any of this
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[02:30] [alkisg] Hey, we already have wget (=busybox) in the initramfs, and it works fine! (no dns thought). Heh, some web-based configuration system might be near... :)
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[05:09] [bassie] hi all, i got a small question. the linux kernel in ubuntu 9.04 is giving me a headache so i installed kernel 6.2.30.
[05:09] [bassie] how do i update the kernel on the thinclient?
[05:09] [bassie] i tried ltsp-update-kernel, but i don't notice a difference in /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
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[05:10] [alkisg] bassie: you need to install the kernel *on the chroot* before running ltsp-update-kernels
[05:10] [alkisg] Then, ltsp-update-kernels gets the kernels from /opt/ltsp/i386/boot and puts them to the tftpboot dir
[05:11] [bassie] so i copy the deb files to /opt/ltsp/i386/
[05:11] [bassie] chroot to that directory and dpkg -i them?
[05:11] [alkisg] Something like that, yes
[05:11] [bassie] ok i'll try
[05:11] [bassie] mind if i post my commands here?
[05:11] [alkisg] Of course not
[05:12] [bassie] mv *deb /opt/ltsp/i386/root/
[05:13] [bassie] chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/
[05:13] [bassie] cd root
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[05:14] [bassie] dpkg both pachages (header and kernel)
[05:14] [alkisg] bassie: wait
[05:14] [alkisg] I don't think there's need for the headers, lemme check...
[05:14] [bassie] well they won't cause any harm and aren't that big
[05:15] [alkisg] ii linux-firmware 1.29 Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[05:15] [alkisg] ii linux-image-2.6.32-12-generic 2.6.32-12.17 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.32 on x86/x86_6
[05:15] [alkisg] ii linux-image-generic 2.6.32.12.12 Generic Linux kernel image
[05:15] [alkisg] OK. Those are what I have, but sure, the headers won't hurt
[05:15] [bassie] if both are installed i ctrl D
[05:15] [alkisg] See if you get any errors, if you do, then mount /proc
[05:16] [bassie] do i ltsp-update image in the chroot or exit it first?
[05:16] [bassie] *ltsp-update-kernel
[05:16] [alkisg] exit first, ltsp-update-kernels after
[05:17] [bassie] k
[05:17] [alkisg] Then, ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 to make sure that it was updated
[05:18] [bassie] /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 has nbi.img-2.6.30-020630-generic and so on
[05:18] [bassie] is this procedure somewhere documented?
[05:18] [alkisg] Yes, in the ubuntu wiki
[05:18] [bassie] tried finding it but couldn't
[05:18] [bassie] guess google wasn't my friend
[05:18] [alkisg] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot
[05:19] [alkisg] put "ubuntultsp" in google to locate the wiki pages more easily...
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[05:20] [bassie] guess i missed it.... thx, now lets hope the new kernel fixed my sound problem
[05:21] [bassie] pulseaudio keeps crashing on an intel audio card. Read there where a lot of problems with that specific type of hardware
[05:22] [bassie] an older debian kernel works perfect
[05:22] [alkisg] You may also try a full karmic chroot if you want...
[05:22] [bassie] could try that.....
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[05:23] [bassie] didn't install karmic becouse that has problems joining a skolelinux domain
[05:31] [sep] joining a domain ? it's just pam and nss ldap right ?
[05:31] [bassie] yea
[05:31] [bassie] it's been posted on the skolelinux mailinglist but no solution
[05:31] [bassie] sep..; aren't you a skolelinux developer?
[05:32] [sep] guess so.. :)
[05:32] [bassie] recognise the name...
[05:33] [sep] http://wiki.skolelinux.de/Skolelinux/Ubuntu collects some of the various mail's that have been on the topic
[05:33] [sep] very old much of it i see
[05:33] [bassie] got to switch computer.... brb
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[05:36] [bassie] backj
[05:37] [bassie] guess that didn't work....
[05:40] [sep] bassie, also there is #debian-edu on oftc, people there that have more experience with ubuntu vs skolelinux then i have.
[05:41] [bassie] well i downgraded to 9.04 and that works too....
[05:41] [bassie] so didn't have any need to bother anyone
[05:41] [bassie] and it was my own fault... should have just stayed with debian
[05:45] [alkisg] bassie: is the sound problem a driver problem?
[05:47] [bassie] probably yes
[05:48] [bassie] after the upgrade my thin client won't boot... looking into it now
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[05:49] [bassie] i'm getting mount errors.
[05:49] [alkisg] Those are "normal" :)
[05:50] [alkisg] Ignore them.... anything else?
[05:50] [bassie] i'm getting thrown to initramfs
[05:50] [bassie] target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[05:50] [alkisg] Hmmm
[05:50] [bassie] no in it found. Try passing init = bootarg
[05:51] [alkisg] Is nbd-client running?
[05:51] [bassie] yep
[05:52] [bassie] nbdclient 172.16.2.13 2000 /dev/nbd0 -persist
[05:52] [alkisg] And I suppose root isn't mounted in /root, right?
[05:52] [bassie] BUT......
[05:52] [bassie] mount /dev/nbd0 on rofs failed
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[05:54] [bassie] alkisg: "And I suppose root isn't mounted in /root, right?" what do you mean? how do i check?
[05:54] [alkisg] Well if mount failed, root won't be there
[05:55] [alkisg] But I don't know why mount would fail...
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[05:56] [bassie] dmesg: squashfs error: majof/minor mismatch, older squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported
[05:56] [bassie] could this be it?
[05:56] [alkisg] Yup
[05:56] [bassie] and i guess squashfs is in the kernel :-)
[05:57] [bassie] ok i'll install an older kernel then :-)
[05:58] [alkisg] bassie: maybe you could update squashfs-tools in your server?
[05:58] [bassie] i'll try with an older kernel first...
[05:58] [alkisg] I've never done that, but the squashfs-tools dependencies seem simple..
[06:01] [bassie] just making an image with kernel 2.6
[06:01] [bassie] 2.6.26 that is
[06:01] [alkisg] Weren't you trying to update your kernel, not downgrade it? :)
[06:02] [bassie] well ubuntu has kernel 2.28 and taht is bugged
[06:02] [bassie] kernel 2.26 and 2.30 are both ok
[06:02] [bassie] *6.26 and 6.30
[06:03] [alkisg] Ah, ok
[06:03] [bassie] atleast i'm hoping that is the fix
[06:04] [bassie] same mounting problem, but now i don't get the squashfs error
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[06:11] [bassie] gonna do a fresh install and experiment in next wednesday...
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[06:28] [Briareos1] good afternoon
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