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[02:34] [vagrantc] i can't figure out how the initramfs-tools script gets it's defaults if nbdroot/nbdport aren't set...
[02:34] [vagrantc] but it clearly does somehow...
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[02:52] [alkisg] vagrantc: for nbdroot? it uses the server variable, if nbdroot isn't set... look in ltsp_nbd
[02:54] [vagrantc] and the port?
[02:55] [vagrantc] ah, i see ...
[02:55] [vagrantc] defaults to 2000.
[02:56] [vagrantc] i note that we've got NBD_PORT code also in the initscripts to handle NBD swap...
[02:56] [vagrantc] should probably explicitly set NBD_SWAP_PORT, NBD_ROOT_PORT, etc.
[02:57] *** alkisg notes that that port needs to be changed :)
[02:57] [alkisg] Maybe 9572 and up (as multiple chroots might be served) would be a better choice
[02:58] [vagrantc] yeah, there's a handful of services in the 2000 range...
[02:59] [vagrantc] though at this point for me, sleep would be a better choice. :)
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[03:28] [elias_a] ls
[03:28] [elias_a] Oops :)
[03:28] [appiah] .
[03:28] [appiah] ..
[03:28] [appiah] porn
[03:28] [appiah] End of list!
[03:28] [elias_a] make love
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[07:39] [sbalneav] Morning all
[07:41] [alkisg] Hi Scotty
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[07:59] [vvinet] good morning scotty
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[08:10] Nick change: etyack -> ImOnALinksBender
[08:13] *** _UsUrPeR_ has some questions about xinitrc.d in the chroot
[08:16] [_UsUrPeR_] It seems that it acts intermittently. This is pertaining to alsa sound settings. I am attempting to set the 'mic boost' setting on the DLW Term 1520 to "0%". Sometimes on login of the client, sometimes it does not.
[08:17] [_UsUrPeR_] In order to see if the script I put in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc.d/I10-micfix , I added a touch > /tmp/micfix. Once I added that to the script, it appeared to work every time.
[08:18] [_UsUrPeR_] After further testing, I have taken out the touch script in I10-micfix,, yet it's still working.
[08:18] [sbalneav] Sounds like there's a race condition somewhere.
[08:18] [Gadi] _UsUrPeR_: mic boost is an on/off thin not a percentage thing
[08:18] [Gadi] *thing
[08:19] [Gadi] amixer -c0 sset 'Mic Boost',0 on
[08:19] [Gadi] or some such
[08:19] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: Typically, I am aware that it's an on/off function, but on this specific motherboard, it's a slider from 0% to 100%
[08:19] [_UsUrPeR_] at least according to alsa mixer
[08:19] [Gadi] ah
[08:20] [Gadi] remember that your script is sourced, so it must return true
[08:20] [sbalneav] That too
[08:20] [Gadi] what does the script look like?
[08:20] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: right now, the script consists of "alsactl restore"
[08:20] [Gadi] then, it should be:
[08:20] [Gadi] alsactl restore || true
[08:20] [sbalneav] right.
[08:20] [_UsUrPeR_] hmm
[08:21] *** _UsUrPeR_ goes to do that
[08:21] [Gadi] otherwise, you will get intermittent results :)
[08:21] [_UsUrPeR_] >_
[08:21] [_UsUrPeR_] huh. ok.
[08:21] [Gadi] if you added the "touch" at the end,
[08:21] [Gadi] that would explain why it always worked
[08:22] [Gadi] because it always returned true
[08:22] Nick change: ImOnALinksBender -> etyack
[08:22] *** Gadi thinks we need to add a ${channel_name}_SWITCH variable to our sound control....
[08:24] *** _UsUrPeR_ agrees only because this profoundly affects him
[08:24] [_UsUrPeR_] :)
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[08:47] [vbundi] hey so in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf I have set screen_07 = rdesktop -f xxx.xxx... and RDP_SERVER = 192.xxx.xx... and my terminal is still taking forever to boot, and I'm getting the ubuntu boot splash
[08:47] [Gadi] vbundi: you expected differently?
[08:48] [vbundi] it seems like my i386 image is too big for some of these older slower terminals to processs... is there any way to hack the ubuntu one to make it lighter?
[08:48] [Gadi] running rdesktop once X starts does not impact the boot time
[08:48] [vbundi] I spoke to someone yesterday that setting rdp_server = xxx would bypass X and the ldm environment altogether
[08:48] [Gadi] X, no; ldm, yes
[08:49] [vbundi] alright, so what I want to do is disable some services, but in my chroot machine, it doesnt' seem to be the traditional rc3.d etc
[08:51] [vbundi] is there a way to do this with ubuntu's image?
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[08:55] [Gadi] the image does use the standard system for service
[08:55] [Gadi] ubuntu doesnt run things in runlevel 3, tho, it uses S and 2 primarily
[08:56] [Gadi] not that it really uses runlevels anymore
[08:56] [Gadi] but, in any event, the chroot is built from ubuntu packages and uses all the same mechanisms
[08:56] [Gadi] there are some services started by ltsp initscripts
[09:00] [vbundi] well I dont' necessarily want to remove the X server packages, I just want to disable them for now, however I can't find where to stop X from booting up
[09:02] [vbundi] hmm something along these lines?
[09:02] [vbundi] sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
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[09:05] [vbundi] well that doesn't work
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[09:11] [Gadi] uhm, without X, how will you run rdesktop?
[09:12] [vbundi] it's for an office that 95% of users will be running RDP to a windows TS
[09:14] [sbalneav] rdesktop runs under X.
[09:15] [Gadi] vbundi: there are two types of "slowness" - slow to boot and slow to use
[09:15] [Gadi] which are you trying to solve?
[09:15] [Gadi] ie, once you log into windows, is everything fine?
[09:15] [johnny] slow to think :) that's the one i am :)
[09:16] [johnny] /me drinks coffee
[09:16] [vbundi] slow to boot
[09:17] [Gadi] so, once you log into windows, all is well?
[09:17] [vbundi] yea
[09:17] [vbundi] the fast terminals dont' have any issue with anything
[09:17] [vbundi] actually this slow one doesn't even want to fully boot for some reason
[09:18] [Gadi] vbundi: what version of ubuntu do you have there?
[09:18] [vbundi] 8.04
[09:18] [Gadi] ah - an old one
[09:18] [Gadi] will you upgrade to 10.04 when it is released?
[09:19] [vbundi] oh definitely, I would use 9.10 if it worked for what I was doing
[09:19] [Gadi] well, we have been doing a lot of boot optimization in prep for 10.04
[09:19] [vbundi] I'm going to be running some VMs off of this server, and 9.10 doesn't like to work with VMware it seems
[09:19] [Gadi] so, you should see dramatic improvements
[09:19] [vbundi] yeah I've heard they are going for boot speed these days
[09:20] [Gadi] well, we have too :)
[09:20] [johnny] you mean vmware doesn't like to work with 9.10
[09:20] [johnny] get it right..
[09:20] [vbundi] yea it makes sense for sure
[09:20] [johnny] blame the right people..
[09:20] [vbundi] yes johnny my bad
[09:20] [Gadi] if you want to get access to ltsp code as it comes out for ubuntu, you can use stgraber's ppa in the chroot
[09:20] [johnny] the closed source software always gets the blame first :)
[09:20] [vbundi] and really it's not 9.10 either but the newer kernel I believe
[09:20] [Gadi] !stgraber-ppa
[09:20] [ltspbot] Gadi: "stgraber-ppa" :: https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa
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[09:21] [johnny] no.. the problem is vmware not working with that kernel.. because it is closed source :)
[09:21] [Gadi] he has been backporting to 9.10 as we go
[09:21] [johnny] Gadi, so.. stgraber did some bootcharts, have you seen anythingfor less powerful thin clients?
[09:22] *** alkisg still needs 1 min for an HP T1500 :)
[09:22] [Gadi] johnny: not as yet - but all ships rise with the tide and whatnot
[09:22] [johnny] alkisg, so.. were there any change?
[09:23] [vbundi] regardless, I should be able to speed things up by disabling services right? Am I better off building a new image from scratch? I can't seem to find how to disable X in the ltsp image I have here
[09:23] [alkisg] I'm not sure, I didn't count seconds... I'll benchmark it more accurately though, I do have a karmic chroot handy
[09:23] [Gadi] vbundi: you need an Xserver for rdesktop
[09:23] [Gadi] rdesktop is an Xclient
[09:24] [vbundi] oh.. yea I guess that makes sense
[09:24] [vbundi] doh
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[09:26] [vbundi] so maybe running ice or xfe might be a little easier on the older thin clients?
[09:28] [Gadi] vbundi: we dont run a window manager at all
[09:28] [Gadi] :)
[09:28] [Gadi] your problem does not lie with X or anything about it
[09:28] [Gadi] it lies with all of the prep work to get to X
[09:29] [Gadi] I would suggest you at least start with 9.10
[09:30] [Gadi] and then you can make some decisions, like - is it faster if I turn off local device support (LOCALDEV=False)
[09:30] [Gadi] or sound? (SOUND=False)
[09:31] [akuepker] Gadi: SHELL_3 = "rdesktop" (or whatever the syntax is) doesn't work anymore?
[09:31] [Gadi] SCREEN_03 = rdesktop
[09:31] [Gadi] like that?
[09:31] [vbundi] yea thats what I'm doing
[09:31] [Gadi] should be fine
[09:31] [vbundi] and it doesn't seem to work on the wimpy clients
[09:31] [vbundi] ah maybe it's not case sensitive
[09:32] [Gadi] it works, it just takes a long time to boot
[09:32] [Gadi] I thought
[09:33] [vbundi] hey so in my old ltsp 4 setup I have screen_01 = rdesktop -f 192.x.x.x
[09:33] [vbundi] now there is an RDP_SERVER line
[09:33] [vbundi] would I set RDP_SERVER = 192.x.x.x.x and then just screen_01 = rdesktop?
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