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[00:04] [johnny] !docs
[00:04] [ltspbot`] johnny: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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[01:09] [gnunux] hi
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[02:24] [nyu_] hi
[02:26] [nyu_] I want to setup a menu launcher on LTSP, similar to the one in ThinStation. I'm evaluating the following options: 1) .xsession magic with *DM session selection, 2) custom script using dialog/zenity/whatever, 3) port the launcher for ThinStation over
[02:26] [nyu_] any suggestion? is there a better approach?
[02:28] [Appiah] what's a menu launcher?
[02:29] [nyu_] Appiah: an application / setup to display a number of options to the user (e.g. rdesktop, NX client, etc)
[02:30] [Appiah] before entering the desktop?
[02:31] [nyu_] there wouldnt be any standalone desktop
[02:31] [Appiah] so
[02:31] [nyu_] just remote login
[02:31] [Appiah] LDM launches , you login , then you get to choose
[02:31] [Appiah] or LDM launches you get to choose , then login
[02:32] [nyu_] I'd rather run it entirely in the client
[02:32] [nyu_] I don't want clients to login into the server, just to mount the filesystem readonly
[02:33] [nyu_] is there no cooked up solution to this?
[02:33] [nyu_] it doesn't seem so rare that I'm the only one who wants it
[02:33] [Appiah] does not sound like LTSP to me
[02:33] [nyu_] LTSP suits well for most of it, as it provides a base rescue system to run things from
[02:42] [Appiah] you could always search the mailinglist
[02:53] [ogra] Appiah, i think he means something pre-ldm where you can select the session type (ldm/rdesktop/telnet/whatever)
[02:53] [Appiah] yes I understand that now :D
[02:54] [Appiah] kind of like how softwares that are provided on thin clients
[02:55] [Appiah] where you can add Citrix and/or MS TS
[02:57] [Appiah] oh btw nyu_
[02:57] [nyu_] ogra: yes
[02:57] [Appiah] when people wan to be able to choose between rdesktop and normal they edit lts.conf
[02:57] [Appiah] with scree_0#=
[02:57] [Appiah] screen*
[02:58] [ogra] nyu_, i'm sure that would be an appreciated (optional) feature
[02:58] [nyu_] done that, but I need a friendlier user interface than "press CTRL-ALT-F2"
[02:58] [Appiah] so thats how people usally do things
[02:58] [nyu_] can I run arbitrary commands in lts.conf / SCREEN_XX entries?
[02:58] [nyu_] they seem to want a specific setting among rdesktop, shell, etc
[02:59] [ogra] you could write a screen script that brings up a menu and then executes the other screen scripts based on the selection i bet
[03:00] [Appiah] many ways to approach this :D
[03:01] [Appiah] Been thinkin of similar when I was gonna put in spice-client
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[03:51] [nyu_] uhm I think GRUB can suit well for the menu selection
[03:51] [nyu_] then I just need to pass this as a parameter in Linux cmdline
[03:54] [Appiah] :)
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[04:43] [nyu_] uhm
[04:44] [nyu_] I take it you aren't supposed to regenerate initrd.img using update-initramfs ?
[04:44] [nyu_] I just did that, and LTSP stopped booting
[04:44] [nyu_] is some special magic required?
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[04:51] [ogra] did you run ltsp-update-kernels on the server afterwards ?
[04:51] [ogra] else your initrd doesnt end up in the tftp dir
[05:00] [nyu_] ogra: I copied it by hand
[05:00] [ogra] and you set the right links etc ?
[05:02] [nyu_] oh, silly me
[05:02] [nyu_] looks like I copied the symlink instead
[05:02] [ogra] thats why we provide scripts that dont make mistakes ;)
[05:05] [nyu_] ah, well my setup is a little too customized for your scripts to work
[05:05] [nyu_] maybe I can sort it out sometime
[05:05] [nyu_] $boss wants something that works first ;-P
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[05:11] [ogra] and the default didnt work ?
[05:21] [nyu_] not to our requirements
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[06:20] [tyoc213] people, I really dont know how to configure ltsp (ubuntu 9.10) so I will really apreciate if there is a step by step tut for set it up?
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[06:28] [Appiah] what's the problem?
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[06:28] [Appiah] !docs
[06:28] [ltspbot`] Appiah: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
[06:28] [Appiah] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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[06:36] [tyoc213] mmm, the problem is that I really dont know if some server will be started after I install a package like ltsp-server
[06:38] [tyoc213] and from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP I dont know which one to read I mean there is no straigth forward info about configuring it, for example see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall Hardy Heron (8.04 that is a lot old isnt?
[06:40] [tyoc213] and I have installed via synaptic... I guess is a little diferent than install a server from startup... also dont know if that option is still available in 9.10 but I have already installed ltsp-*
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[06:41] [tyoc213] the info I have finded is normally for 8.04 or somewhat old... I have even finded some ltsp-package that aparently are not supported now (or have changed names perhaps)
[06:46] [cliebow] !docs
[06:46] [ltspbot`] cliebow: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
[06:46] [cliebow] tyoc213, ^^^^^
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[06:48] [ogra] tyoc213, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall say that from hardy on the design changed ... it applies to the current release
[06:48] [ogra] *says
[06:49] [ogra] note that link :) "get the Karmic Koala iso from http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/"
[06:50] [tyoc213] OK today after work I will read the manual and see if I can do something
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[06:52] [tyoc213] I see...
[06:52] [tyoc213] I will try that later, now I g2g
[06:53] [tyoc213] mmm I have already try sudo ltsp-build-client but I got an error... that it was able to create it...
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[06:54] [tyoc213] now it says NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to problems, please remove it before trying again. Exiting.
[06:54] [tyoc213] but I dont want to delete it because I remember that is has taked much time downloading things, there exist a way to reuse it?
[06:56] [ogra] see ltsp-build-client --extra-help
[06:56] [ogra] iirc there was an option
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[07:00] [tyoc213] sudo ltsp-build-client --purge-chroot ?
[07:00] [ogra] no
[07:01] [ogra] there is an option to re-use the servers package cache directory
[07:02] [ogra] though you will now have to redownload once again at least to get them into the *servers* packagecache
[07:03] [tyoc213] --copy-package-cache and then --mount-package-cache?
[07:04] [ogra] right, either of these
[07:04] [ogra] but note that all downloaded packages in the /opt dir are wiped at the end of ltsp-build-client anyway if you didnt use one of these options
[07:05] [ogra] so you can safely delete it now
[07:05] [ogra] and then do all new builds with --mount-package-cache ... that will keep them on the server
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[07:14] [MRH2] hi anyone seen an issue with remote X where click input from the mouse does not work and the cursor is a big L shape.
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[07:25] [tyoc213] ok, brb later
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[07:40] [litlebuda] hi all is it possible to burn a cd directly on the thin client cd drive ?
[07:40] [ogra] with localapps, yes
[07:41] [litlebuda] ogra quem you please point me out to where that info is . i cant seem to find it :( thnaks
[07:41] [litlebuda] * can
[07:42] [ogra] i doubt there is any
[07:43] [ogra] i was just commenting on the technical possibility :) you need to install some CD writing software in the client chroot, rebuild the image and should then be able to use the cd writing app as a localapp
[07:43] [litlebuda] well i have access to usbsticks and cd contents , but they are beiyng mounted at /media/username/cdrom
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[07:46] [litlebuda] ogra shouldn't they apear on the desktop ?
[07:47] [alincoln] anyone know where I can find the branch that has the add_mirrors problem fixed? I have latest upstream branch and ltsp-build-client dies because of this.
[07:48] [ogra] litlebuda, only if you use a distro and desktop that have ltspfs properly integrated
[07:49] [litlebuda] ogra xubuntu here !
[07:49] [litlebuda] should work no ?
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[08:04] [Pod2] is it possible to remotely reboot clients in ltsp 5? ltspinfo did it in 4.2
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[08:23] [_UsUrPeR_] hey, does anybody know of an lts.conf parameter for "Mic Boost" volume settings?
[08:24] [sbalneav] Pod2: I don't beleieve there's something built in directly, but I posted something to the mailing list about a year ago on how to do it.
[08:25] [ogra] _UsUrPeR_, i bet Gadi does
[08:25] [alkisg] !lts.conf
[08:25] [ltspbot`] alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
[08:26] [alkisg] Hmmm only the volume is there, not the boost :(
[08:26] [_UsUrPeR_] yeah :/
[08:26] [_UsUrPeR_] I've been trying to get alsamixer to recall settings
[08:26] [_UsUrPeR_] and it has become a conundrum
[08:26] [_UsUrPeR_] because either way would be fine
[08:28] [Gadi] _UsUrPeR_: you might be able to get it
[08:28] [Pod2] sbalneav: thanks, I'll see if I can find it
[08:28] [_UsUrPeR_] gadi: I have attempted to make a script in chroot's init.d...
[08:28] [Gadi] what is the exact channel name for the mic boost (when you do: amixer scontrols |grep -i boost)
[08:30] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: there's two, and I'm not quite sure which is which. One is Front Mic Boost, the other is Mic Boost
[08:30] [Gadi] try: MIC_BOOST_VOLUME = "on"
[08:30] [Gadi] and: FRONT_MIC_BOOST_VOLUME = "on"
[08:31] [Gadi] (a little weird syntax, but the code *may* do the right thing
[08:31] [Gadi] oh, no wait
[08:31] [Gadi] I have a % in there
[08:31] [Gadi] it won't work
[08:31] [Gadi] we would need to add code to get it done
[08:32] [Gadi] _UsUrPeR_: all your code needs to do is call: amixer -c0 sset 'Mic Boost',0 on
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