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[00:21] [alkisg] johnny: sure, I know... ltsp-update-image is what handles nbd port numbers, though
[00:21] [alkisg] ltsp-update-kernels would be the one that generates the pxelinux.cfg/default files
[00:21] [johnny] doesn't mean you shouldn't use it
[00:22] [johnny] also.. it should be another script .. just because :)
[00:22] [alkisg] I'm not sure about that :)
[00:22] [alkisg] There's a great lack of cooperation between the involved scripts, currently
[00:23] [alkisg] Sure, I can make a seperate script, and I can even not put it in ltsp at all but as a seperate project, but I really think we should fix those scripts to better cooperate
[00:24] [johnny] that sounds like a good idea too
[00:25] [johnny] alkisg, it would be nice if parts could be pulled out as shell functions and included..
[00:25] [johnny] and call some stuff conditionally depending on whether certain features were used, like nbd
[00:26] [alkisg] johnny: some more thoughts: e.g. 000-basic-configuration could contain the BOOTPROMPT_OPTS or even the pxe menu caption, and note that down to $ROOT/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
[00:27] [alkisg] That would make update-kernels distro agnostic (now it has "case $VENDOR in...")
[00:27] [johnny] they could pull in other files too tho..
[00:27] [johnny] and especially other functions..
[00:27] [alkisg] Also, ltsp-update-image would write down the (possibly modified) nbd port number to that file
[00:28] [alkisg] update-kernels would then use whatever information was there to construct a minimal pxelinux.cfg/default in th chroot,
[00:29] [alkisg] and ltsp-update-kernels would use those files but also additional server-side info to generate all the pxe menus
[00:29] [alkisg] (e.g. if memdisk is there or if the user specified other menu entries)
[00:30] [alkisg] Now, the "pulling other files/scripts" is a seperate thing. We could add that after that modifications, but I want to keep the changes simple/minimal for a start...
[00:30] [alkisg] johnny: do you have some examples in mind?
[00:31] [vagrantc] oh, what an adventure
[00:32] [alkisg] :)
[00:32] [vagrantc] i like making BOOTPROMPT_OPTS distro agnostic.
[00:32] [vagrantc] though i don't think all the distro's use update-kernels, even.
[00:33] [vagrantc] but moving towards something we could all use would be nice.
[00:33] [vagrantc] the fewer places we can do case/if statements on things like VENDOR, the better.
[00:34] [alkisg] vagrantc: default values would also be used, e.g. BOOTPROMPT_OPTS=${BOOTPROMPT_OPTS:-"root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp"} - but of course if some distro doesn't use update-kernel, it would have to provide its own defaults
[00:35] [alkisg] (or just update/source the update-kernels.conf file even if it doesn't use update-kernels)
[00:36] [johnny] i would be able to use ltsp-update-kernels if i modified it..
[00:37] [alkisg] So, I'm thinking to create a branch with all those modifications today + the next few days, and post it to ltsp-devel along with the rationale/specs...
[00:38] [vagrantc] i probably won't be able to take much of a look at it till friday
[00:39] [alkisg] It surely is *not* something to rush :)
[00:39] [alkisg] I'm just asking if there's some consent, or a total waste of time :D
[00:41] [vagrantc] i think it could use some serious overhaul and/or rewriting, so i'm glad to see work on it, though i do like the idea of it not being pushed into ltsp-trunk without a some review...
[00:41] [alkisg] Of course. Many files would be modified, so I'm not going to commit such a thing without approval.
[00:43] [alkisg] An ltsp-build-client plugin that creates update-kernels.conf will also need to be created in common/.
[00:43] [alkisg] (maybe update-kernels.conf should be renamed if not all distros use it, whatever...)
[00:44] [alkisg] Also, the pxe files would be split in two: (1) "entry" just the menu entry, and (2) "default", which will just include that entry and make it default
[00:45] [alkisg] This way the "entry" files will be included by the "master" file = the menus, but it will still enable someone to keep his old dhcp settings without getting affected
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[01:11] [gnunux] hi
[01:29] [alkisg] Hi
[01:45] [johnny] you can always branch alkisg
[01:46] [johnny] that's what dvcs is for
[01:46] [johnny] or vcs in generally , but dvcs systems tend to make it easier
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[01:53] [alkisg] johnny: right, I'll propose a branch for merging when I'm done. I'll send the specs on the list first, because someone might not want those changes at all.
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