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[00:07] [Appiah] "hanging on the routers IP" ?
[00:13] [alkisg] elmo40: do you mean that you have 2 dhcp servers and 1 nic on your ltsp server?
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[00:35] [shogunx] hi guys.
[00:36] [shogunx] i need a bit of a advice
[00:36] [shogunx] i have just installed one of my solarnetone ltsp networks on abemama, kiribati in the south pacific.
[00:37] [shogunx] i am running out of time on the island, and i need a method to allow timed logins
[00:38] [shogunx] the operator does prepay billing, and they need to be able to sell an hour of service and have that hour essentially logged and the session to time out when complete.
[00:38] [shogunx] any ideas? ogra?
[00:39] [shogunx] not sure i can write that in an day and a half...
[00:47] [alkisg] shogunx: http://projects.gnome.org/nanny/ enforces time limits on sessions, but it's oriented to kids. Maybe you could get some code out of it, though...
[00:47] [shogunx] cool
[00:47] [shogunx] thanx... i'll check it
[00:47] [alkisg] np
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[05:40] [alkisg] SOUND should be forced=FALSE for fat clients. So I want to put an "if boolean_is_true "$LTSP_FATCLIENT"; then export SOUND=False; fi"
[05:41] [alkisg] Should I put that in ltsp_config or in ltsp-init-common?
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[08:26] [sbalneav] MoMorning all
[08:27] [alkisg] !s
[08:27] [ltspbot] alkisg: "s" :: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:28] [sbalneav] Morning alkisg
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[08:44] [alincoln] how does ltsp-build-client decide what packages to put in the chroot? i've been poking at the scripts for a while and can't tell.
[08:46] [alincoln] oh, i think it's 040-copy-package-lists.
[08:46] [alkisg] It puts a hardcoded set of packages, unless the user specifies one of the '--early-packages' or '--late-packages' options
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[08:47] [alincoln] alkisg: ah, ok. i was wrong.
[08:47] [alincoln] alkisg: where is the hardcoded list?
[08:47] [alkisg] In the source code :P :D
[08:47] [alkisg] No seriously it's in more than 1 plugins
[08:47] Nick change: etyack -> etyackAKAmrMom
[08:47] [alincoln] alkisg: heh, fair enough
[08:49] [damianos] Hello
[08:49] [damianos] Gia sou aklisg
[08:50] [alkisg] Geia sou damianos :)
[08:50] [alincoln] alkisg: if i go into the chroot and do 'dpkg --get-selections', i get a list of packages installed by ltsp-build-client into the chroot. but these package names aren't in any of the plugin scripts. they must be defined another way, right?
[08:51] [damianos] Can somebody point me to some documentation on how to boot a thin client with a floppy?
[08:51] [Appiah] umm
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[08:51] [Appiah] gPXE maybe has something like that
[08:51] [damianos] Everything I've found online is years old
[08:51] [Appiah] yes thats beacuse the floppy is old
[08:52] [Appiah] people use usb sticks today
[08:52] [alkisg] alincoln: many of them are dependencies....
[08:52] [gnunux] alincoln: package are installed with debootstap
[08:52] [Appiah] http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/removable#creating_a_bootable_floppy_disk
[08:52] [alkisg] alincoln: E.g. if you run `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`, you'll get hundrends of programs
[08:52] [alincoln] alkisg: ah, ok.
[08:53] [alincoln] gnunux: thanks
[08:53] [damianos] Thanks Appiah...I'll go check it out
[08:53] [alkisg] damianos: http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-0.9.9/contrib/rom-o-matic/
[08:53] [alkisg] Just click the button there.
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[08:55] [alkisg] (the get image button - you don't need to modify any setting)
[08:55] [damianos] Thanks alkisg....btw a thin client i've been using for testing was working fine then I started getting a media test failure. Is the media being referred to system RAM?
[08:56] [alkisg] I don't think so. Maybe the network cable?
[08:56] [damianos] Nope....I setup a virtual machine on my laptop to act as a client and it boots fine
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[09:17] [alincoln] i'm testing LTSP 5.1.98 in Ubuntu 10.04, and getting some errors on startup because lspci isn't available in the image. it seems that it's been removed from EARLY_PACKAGES for ltsp-build-client for 5.1.98, even though it was in this variable for LTSP 5.1.90.
[09:18] [alincoln] was it intended to remove hal from the image? if so, should the scripts that rely on it be removed?
[09:18] [alkisg] alincoln: that was fixed recently, lspci should be on the image on newer builds
[09:19] [alincoln] alkisg: ah, ok
[09:19] [alkisg] For now just put it there manually
[09:19] [alincoln] gotcha
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[09:33] [_UsUrPeR_] ok, so I just upgraded a ltsp server from 9.04 to 9.10, and almost all of the ltsp users (aside from my own personal user) are not able to start X. Here's the auth.log and syslog files:
[09:33] [_UsUrPeR_] http://pastebin.com/m2ef79a2f
[09:33] [_UsUrPeR_] it's saying that it can's start an nm-applet.desktop, and a /proc directory can't be read :/
[09:36] [_UsUrPeR_] I am able to log on as these users on the server, just no clients
[09:37] [Gadi] the proc thing sounds like italc or some such
[09:37] [Gadi] and nm-applet is network-manager
[09:37] [Gadi] your users don't need nm-applet
[09:38] [sbalneav] Gadi: Morning!!!
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[09:38] [Gadi] !s
[09:38] [ltspbot] Gadi: "s" :: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:38] [_UsUrPeR_] !s
[09:38] [ltspbot] _UsUrPeR_: "s" :: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:38] [_UsUrPeR_] hey the bot works! :D
[09:38] [Gadi] _UsUrPeR_: neither of those errors should be blocking
[09:38] *** sbalneav reminds gadi about a breif one pager on rdesktop for the manual
[09:38] [Gadi] _UsUrPeR_: check auth.log for ssh auth issues
[09:38] [alkisg] Also check for compiz problems :)
[09:38] [Gadi] sbalneav: ah, thx! Todays a good day to do it, too
[09:38] [Gadi] bless u, MLK,Jr.
[09:38] [_UsUrPeR_] gadi: auth.log on the server is in the pastebin I provided
[09:39] [sbalneav] Ah, yes, happy MLK day to our american cousins. Here's to dreaming!
[09:39] [_UsUrPeR_] hmm. another weird thing: SCREEN-02 = shell does not seem to be working properly. I hit ctrl+alt+F2 to go to tty2, and instead I am seeing a garbled version of ldm background
[09:40] [Gadi] SCREEN_02 you mean
[09:40] [_UsUrPeR_] gadi: yeah
[09:40] [_UsUrPeR_] SCREEN_02
[09:40] [sbalneav] xplash brokenness?
[09:40] [Gadi] yeah, sounds like a wonky compositing manager
[09:40] [Gadi] uninstall compiz
[09:40] [Gadi] and see if everything comes up Milhouse
[09:40] [sbalneav] ahh, compiz
[09:41] [sbalneav] Some people have the bogeyman, we have compiz
[09:41] [_UsUrPeR_] Gadi: milhouse = bring, blue hair, glasses, divorced parents?
[09:41] [_UsUrPeR_] s/bring/boring
[09:41] [sbalneav] "The program you love to hate" :)
[09:41] [Gadi] indeed
[09:41] [Gadi] on all counts
[09:41] [_UsUrPeR_] I hope my ltsp session doesn't have a broken childhood
[09:42] [alkisg] _UsUrPeR_, try this: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
[09:42] [alkisg] You may need to restart gconfd... (or reboot or something)...
[09:42] [_UsUrPeR_] alkisg: is that in chroot, server or client?
[09:43] [alkisg] Server, it disables compiz for everyone
[09:43] [_UsUrPeR_] k
[09:43] *** _UsUrPeR_ restarts client
[09:45] [_UsUrPeR_] alkis: that worked. huh.
[09:45] [_UsUrPeR_] also fixed the screen_02 issue
[09:47] [_UsUrPeR_] alkisg: thanks.
[09:47] [alkisg] np - hope your driver is fixed soon :)
[09:47] [_UsUrPeR_] oh that's a VIA issue?
[09:47] [_UsUrPeR_] I'll keep chasing that rainbow.
[09:47] [_UsUrPeR_] I.E. "fat chance" ;)
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[10:11] [Gadi] sbalneav: where in the manual do you intend to put the rdp stuff?
[10:11] *** Gadi wonders what context he should put stuff in
[10:12] [sbalneav] Gadi: I'd probably give it it's own chapter
[10:12] [sbalneav] since lots of people have an interest in it, it's important enough to separate out as a chapter.
[10:13] [Gadi] ok
[10:14] [sbalneav] Just do plain text, or an OO document, whatever's easier.
[10:14] [sbalneav] I can docbook it after that.
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[11:00] [etyackAKAmrMom] sbalneav: is there a document describing you want documentation submitted?
[11:04] [sbalneav] etyackAKAmrMom: You mean, how I want documentation submitted?
[11:04] [sbalneav] I'll take it any way I can get it
[11:04] [sbalneav] Reformatting for docbook's just an excercise in text processing
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[11:12] [Gadi] sbalneav: keep an eye out for my email
[11:13] [etyackAKAmrMom] sbalneav: k, and your are the docmaster too
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[11:14] [sbalneav] etyackAKAmrMom: docmaster. Cool title.
[11:15] [sbalneav] I was gunning for something more along the lines of "Keeper of ye olde mysikal LTSP Lore and Spells"
[11:15] [sbalneav] but docmaster's shorter :)
[11:18] [etyackAKAmrMom] yah, that sounds more like you. tough to print on a badge though, maybe a belt buckle, a BIG belt buckle.
[11:19] [CAN-o-SPAM] heh
[11:25] [sbalneav] Gadi: Got it! I'll add it now.
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