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[04:29] [garymc] hey anyone know how to use ftp. I set it up so i could access my ftp web server from the internet. Now I had 5 static ip address's assigned and i assigned one to my LTSP server now i cant ftp to it remotley. Do i have to change anything in ftp and how? what files do i alter and where are they?
[04:34] [rhodan_] If I want to PXE boot machines besides an existing, untouchable DHCP, I need Proxy-DHCP, right?
[04:35] [rhodan_] And for that, I need dnsmasq because dhcpd can't do that.
[04:38] [rhodan_] Is this correct?
[04:48] [alkisg] rhodan_: yes
[04:48] [alkisg] But if you have a windows dhcp server, there's a wiki page on how to modify it
[04:48] [alkisg] (although the proxydhcp method seems easier to me :D)
[04:48] [rhodan_] *untouchable*
[04:48] [alkisg] OK, proxydhcp it is, then
[04:49] [rhodan_] kthx
[04:49] *** alkisg used the word "unmodifiable" in the wiki page :P
[04:49] *** alkisg reboots to try to install edubuntu lucid...
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[05:00] [vmlintu] sbalneav: I spent some time toying around with ideas for localapp-nss and for testing made simple ltsp ldap server using nss as backend: https://code.launchpad.net/~vmlintu/+junk/devel - no ldap knowledge required - no schemas, no difficult ldap tools, just modify /etc/passwd + /etc/group and it picks them up. Client libraries are already existing and nss-ldapd has quite nice caching to boost things..
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[05:53] [firestorm] Hi there. Trying to get x11vnc working to connect to ltsp clients. Used the following guide and have disabled ufw/firehol but get connection refused. https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients I can confirm that x11vnc process is running once client has booted up. Thoughts?
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[08:03] [sbalneav] Morning all
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[08:08] [vmlintu] afternoon
[08:14] [sbalneav] vmlintu: Looked at the code, it's interesting, but I'm not sure if it's the right approach.
[08:15] [sbalneav] With your mini-ldap server, how are you going to handle password shadow operations?
[08:17] [vmlintu] It'd be only taking care of the passwd and group, no authentication
[08:19] [sbalneav] so, we'd still need the libpam-sshauth then?
[08:21] [vmlintu] Ldap authentication still couldn't authenticate the user to the server, so libpam-sshauth would still be needed.
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[08:21] [sbalneav] ok
[08:22] [vmlintu] While doing it, I noticed one definite plus for the approach - the nss_ldapd library has really nice caching system, so it'd be quite a bit faster than doing "getent passwd" requests through the ssh tunnel
[08:23] [sbalneav] No reason why we can't cache results with a libnss-sshauth.
[08:25] [vmlintu] I could also see negative things in this approach while doing it as the different ldap libraries quite differently
[08:26] [vmlintu] The test code works now with nss_ldap and nss_ldapd
[08:29] [sbalneav] Can you toss a link to your branch and some of your thoughts on the wiki page there? I don't want to loose track of what yo've done.
[08:30] [vmlintu] Caching the results would probably be needed, based on previous experiences.. We've been running some fatclients using ltsp as base and at first ldap servers have been dying routinely..
[08:30] [vmlintu] were dying
[08:31] [vmlintu] I'll add it to the wiki page
[08:33] [sbalneav] Super! Thanks for poking about with this!
[08:33] [sbalneav] Keep this up, we'll make you a dev :)
[08:34] [sbalneav] Just ask alkisg how easy a process that is :)
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[08:37] [vmlintu] I just started thinking that if the mini-server supported also authentication, it could also act as a backend for moodle and other webapps used in schools..
[08:39] [vmlintu] well, I've got piles of tools and scripts for everything possible related to ltsp/desktop management laying around and waiting for clean-up..
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[08:43] [sbalneav] !g
[08:43] [ltspbot] sbalneav: "g" :: Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:45] [Gadi] !s
[08:45] [ltspbot] Gadi: "s" :: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[09:10] [_UsUrPeR_] grr
[09:13] [sbalneav] eat?
[09:14] [sbalneav] Gadi: We still starting cdpinger in the startup, as opposed to udev?
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[09:22] [Gadi] nope - vagrantc moved it to udev a while ago
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[09:23] [sbalneav] That's what I thought.... but when I look in ltspfs source, I'm not seeing where it's started in udev.
[09:23] [johnny] shouldn't it just be a file you drop in the udev conf dir?
[09:23] [Gadi] grep cdpinger ltspfs_entry
[09:23] [Gadi] I think
[09:24] [Gadi] ltspfs-trunk/scripts/ltspfs_entry
[09:24] [Gadi] it's in there
[09:24] [Gadi] thats the one that gets executed by udev
[09:25] [johnny] ah.. dear Gadi is with us again
[09:25] [sbalneav] Ahhhhhh
[09:25] [sbalneav] ok, I was looking for an actual udev rule.
[09:26] [sbalneav] so in udev/88-ltsp.rules, that's not being used anymore, looks like?
[09:26] [Gadi] sbalneav: I need to find some time to clean up ltsp_config and ltspfs_entry. Seems we have gotten too liberal in our coding
[09:27] [Gadi] its used
[09:27] [Gadi] the rules tell udev when to call ltspfs_entry
[09:27] [Gadi] ie if you smell like a removable device
[09:27] [Gadi] :)
[09:28] [sbalneav] Weird, how come it's so outdated on mine...
[09:29] [Gadi] outdated?
[09:29] [Gadi] well, some distros do not use upstream rules file
[09:29] [Gadi] not sure what ubuntu or debian does
[09:29] [Gadi] but, for a while, their rules files differed
[09:29] [Gadi] but ltspfs_entry should be the same
[09:30] [sbalneav] I'm gonna re-sync my code.
[09:30] [sbalneav] I've gotten out of step here somehow
[09:31] [Gadi] btw, do any distros use nbd and not use the ltsp_nbd initramfs code?
[09:31] [johnny] any distro that isn't debian based that uses nbd :)
[09:31] [johnny] whichever those are
[09:31] *** Gadi plans to fix the awk/grep issue that stgraber found by preseeding SERVER from the initramfs
[09:31] [johnny] for example..
[09:31] [johnny] fedora
[09:32] [johnny] fedora uses the dracut nbd code (or will soon)
[09:32] [Gadi] does fedora use nbd?
[09:32] [Gadi] ah ok
[09:32] [johnny] must be.. as warrent was behind adding nbd to dracut iirc
[09:32] [johnny] warren*
[09:32] [sbalneav] dracut?
[09:32] [Gadi] ok - well then, I will leave the grep/awk stuff as a safety
[09:32] *** ogra doubts fedora will ever use nbd
[09:32] [johnny] the distro agnostic initramfs system fedora pioneered
[09:32] [ogra] they dont have any kind of union filesystem
[09:32] [johnny] ogra, then why did he go through the hassle of adding nbd support?
[09:33] [ogra] he added that ages ago
[09:33] [johnny] so?
[09:33] [johnny] must be possible to install soem extra module to use nbd
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[09:33] [johnny] err
[09:33] [johnny] some union fs thatis
[09:33] [ogra] you need aufs/unionfs
[09:33] [_UsUrPeR_] Ok, so I have created a local mirror of archive.ubuntu.com for the karmic release, and I'm trying to build a ltsp client image off of it, but I keep getting gpg errors, which causes the build to fail. I have, of course, added --copy-sourceslist to the ltsp-build-client command, and I have added both of the keys, but I am still getting this error. Can anybody explain why it would still give me the GPG errors, even though I have correctly added they keys?
[09:33] [johnny] aufs is still installable externally right?
[09:33] [ogra] right, you need to compile a module
[09:33] [johnny] or install the kernel module..
[09:33] [ogra] and patch your kernel source
[09:33] [johnny] it's a kmod package iirc
[09:34] [ogra] it needs inline patches in the kernel
[09:34] [_UsUrPeR_] also, why is it trying to use outside servers if I am using --copy-sourceslist?
[09:34] [johnny] ah.. suck
[09:34] [sbalneav] ok, I'm confused. In ltspfs-trunk, 88-ltsp.rules is very very simple
[09:34] [johnny] that's so dumb..
[09:34] [johnny] when will the kernel people finish union mounts :(
[09:34] [Gadi] sbalneav: it should be simple
[09:34] [ogra] sbalneav, id that the alsa crap ?
[09:34] [sbalneav] but if I do an apt-get source ltspfsd, 88-ltsp.rules is much larger
[09:34] [Gadi] all the logic is in ltspfs_entry
[09:34] [ogra] *is
[09:35] [Gadi] ah, then ubuntu packages a different rules file
[09:35] [ogra] we use likely a newer udev
[09:35] [johnny] shouldn't ltsp trunk reflect the newer udev?
[09:35] [johnny] than not?
[09:35] [sbalneav] That was what I was thinking
[09:35] [Gadi] nothing to do with alsa
[09:35] [ogra] dont tell me :)
[09:35] [Gadi] its removable media
[09:35] [johnny] /me pokes ogra
[09:36] [ogra] Gadi, yeah, i mixed it up with 88_ltsp_sound
[09:36] [Gadi] not sure if debian uses upstream udev rules
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